That makes as much sense as anything I have heard about it. I do know that I have always liked that ball even before I coudl walk I would go straight to it when visiting my uncle. when he passed it was his choice to leave it to me.

I can feel a field of some kind around the moe joe cell, more so when the water is nearing full charge. … Read more

Just curious, what role do you feel the quartz plays in this. It was not intentional however I do have a 4.5 inch quatz crystal ball in the area (within 2 feet) of where I charge the water. The field that ball puts out now can best be described as amazing.

The bubble pump I have is “powered” from the bubbles that are coming out of the bottom of the vodka bottle I had pictured earlier. The 12v pump makes enough of a vortex that it has air bubbles coming out of the bottom.

However with that pump alone the largest opening I was able to have in the bottom was 1/4 inch (6.35mm) with the bubble… Read more

At this point I can say that I have tried to use the bubble pump as an assist for a feline water fountain drinking system. As far as keeping a vortex going it does, as a secondary pump. I do still have a normal 12vdc pump powering the system, while it will creat a vortex of sorts, the bubble pump it makes gives it the added oomph to fill… Read more

At this point I can say that I have tried to use the bubble pump as an assist for a feline water fountain drinking system. As far as keeping a vortex going it does, as a secondary pump. I do still have a normal 12vdc pump powering the system, while it will creat a vortex of sorts, the bubble pump it makes gives it the added oomph to fill… Read more

It looks like the water level is not over the hole on the top, in that case you wouldnt see any bubbles. if you put your ear close to the opening in the top you may hear them.

Leo july 25th. and maybe not the quickest and definatly not the easiest, but how I learn

Leo july 25th. and maybe not the quickest and definatly not the easiest, but how I learn

I guess for me, what would of helped when I started was just a general set of guidelines as to how to go about it. I think I made every mistake known to man. Literally I picked up how to do it by working out what not to do one mistake at a time.

just general in my life, I can have a very hard head at times.

I didn’t see a good spot for it, the thing is that in a was it touched almost everything in the forums.

Would it be worth making a new heading for it?

I know if there was a place to read about how it was done it could of saved me a lot of frustration in the beginning.

for someone with english as a first language i type it most goodly.

anyway a section on manifesting may not be a bad idea? It is a big foot in the door for other ideals here I think.

Just a btw, the cell doesn’t make the wishes or manifesting possible, you can do that with one, it does add a type of power to it however.

read that again and it sounded wrong. you can do the prayers and manifest without them. but they add to it

Not that mine is the best, or only way. It did however work for me to start small.

I started with some trivial things such as a mickey mouse pencil, seeing someone at random that I havent seen in years, getting people that have been long out of contact to call etc.

For me it was a way to practice and to build confidence that it does… Read more

If it was up to me, I would focus on the comfort level and way of life that you want. Go about it as if it is already yours, it just hasn’t shown up yet.

Envision it as it would be once it has happened. Use all the emotions, sights, sounds hold it for a minute or two. then the hard part! let it go and do its work. Release it totally do… Read more

If it was up to me, I would focus on the comfort level and way of life that you want. Go about it as if it is already yours, it just hasn’t shown up yet.

Envision it as it would be once it has happened. Use all the emotions, sights, sounds hold it for a minute or two. then the hard part! let it go and do its work. Release it totally do… Read more

I have two very rough quotes I use for manifesting..
first he who has faith even the size of a mustard seed can move can cast mountains into the sea.

second (and unrelated) by the time one can move mountains by his thought realizes they are perfect right where they are.

just saying

You can wish/pray/manifest anything you may like as far as I can tell. The only thing that I have found is to do it in a way that no one loses anything. If everyone wins nothing is out of reach.

I guess I should be more specific, do not try to take something away from anyone, and be careful how you form your “wish” if you focus on the… Read more

What I had in mind was a small scale simulation of the conditions during a thunderstorm, since that seems to be when the cell is most active.

If you built a Kelvins thunderstorm, that was itself very well isolated so the arc doesnt happen, and connected the leads to a pair of corona wires just outside of the “edge” of the joe cells field… Read more

I was more interested in having the thunderstorm make more of an ion cloud, of sorts. basically have one set up but not to have the discharge part happen.

Just curious, have you ever heard of anyone running a Joe cell in the area of a Kelvin thunderstorm?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper

I think that the effects may be loosly related

working out the sizes of the “T” and tubes it looks like it may be able to move enough water, but it comes in spurts.

I guess all I can say is you can try it. Since as far as I know no-one really seems to know how these work, everything I read has been theories.

One thing would be if you can do it with a moe-joe cell it would remove the spacers from the guesswork.

That it interesting, I have not really looked at mine dry.

TY for sharing

from what I have seen, it can by done from stuff bought at a pet store. a half inch tee fitting some hose and an air pump. also the air going down the vortex can add air bubbles to increase the flow rate.

the ram pump is very interesting but I dont have access to the volumes needed to make it work.

here is a link to the thought I am… Read more

I am working on a version with an air powered pump as an assist to bump up the volume of water moved without exposing it to any em fields, it looks like it can be done with an aquarium air pump as the main power.

The water wizard I think it was that had a lot of info. I think it was written by a callum coats

From what I have read and felt, the swirling motion and I believe some of the nateral stuff dissolved in the water give it life.

The best water is the kind coming from a spring all on its own, and not stored for an extended period.

You do seem to be able to restore some of the living properties of tap water by running it through a… Read more

I am not an expert, but from what I’ve read, and what I am doing, is to keep the negative connected at all times and connect the positive for the charging. I have no idea if that would work with solar panels, but you should be able to recharge a battery with it if nothing else.

As far as I can tell spring water works the best of anything I… Read more

Ok i do have a 4×4 sheet of plexiglass at 1/4 inch thick. It should be acrylic. I think I have a roll of shim stock around here somewhere that is 316 stainless at .004″ I’ll see if I can cut them into 12″ squares (plexi) an 11″ squares (stainless).

At least there was a noticible effect, the corona wire I am using is also stainless… Read more

Well I tried the aluminum foil inside page protectors (plastic sleeves that school papers go in).

It did indeed have a big effect on how the cell felt, but I cant say it was a good one. It did build up a charge my arm hairs would stand up when near it (like walking in front of a crt tv screen). But it did not feel “good” to be around if… Read more

Just checking, what would you think of repurposing a trumpet or bugle if one could be found at a garagesale type of situation? The shape seems about right.

This is what I am playing with now, it is that vodka bottle made into a vortexer, that also works as the lid for the dispensing jar.

It is still a work in progess, but it does seem to charge the water. With tap water it does start out with a cone underneath, after it runs for a hour or two it becomes a stream.

One other idea, I am going to go out to a craft store to buy some sheets of pvc and a roll of acetate. If we layer either pvc, or acetate sheets with aluminum foil it would make a high voltage capacitor.

If we put that under the cell (or truck tires)with the + end connected to a corona wire. the – end is what is have to play with to figure… Read more

I wouldn’t think either or both even would solve it, just an attempt to stack resistors in a way.

Would the size of the tire make a difference, I am using 44″ tires on 16.5″ rims? That is a lot of rubber to go through.

On a second line of thought, do you think a ceramic coated spacer between the brakes and the rim, and on the lugnuts might help? ceramic has been used as a high voltage insulater for a long time and it would take the… Read more

I was thinking that while getting the vehicle prepared for the cell, it may be possible to raise the earth refence to that of the cell to temporarily discourage it draining.

I have read about a few ways to get power levels similar to the ones he is talking about in his unit charge, directly from the earth, only apart from novelty this… Read more

I was thinking that while getting the vehicle prepared for the cell, it may be possible to raise the earth refence to that of the cell to temporarily discourage it draining.

I have read about a few ways to get power levels similar to the ones he is talking about in his unit charge, directly from the earth, only apart from novelty this… Read more

I have heard that thunderstorms can greatly effect the way a joe cell “in this case” works with a vehical. I wonder if that would have something to do with the earth voltages being higher? I have read somewhere that during a thunderstorm the earth can be charged in the area of 2000 volts per square meter.

I wonder if that would be high… Read more

I am just curious, do you know if he ever has checked the area of the unit charge field for a frequency? I am beginning to think (at least in the case I have) that the bowl is serving a type of antenna/reflector combination. If there is a frequency to it, it should be possible to somewhat tune it by the size, shape, and position of the… Read more

I am just curious, do you know if he ever has checked the area of the unit charge field for a frequency? I am beginning to think (at least in the case I have) that the bowl is serving a type of antenna/reflector combination. If there is a frequency to it, it should be possible to somewhat tune it by the size, shape, and position of the… Read more

I would guess the poles may change according to what you may need, I have been told by several people that I am the most easy going person they have ever met. whith that said it seems to work good for me. I think its a matter of finding what works for whoever is drinking it. My daughter likes it better with a balance towards south poles as well.

A view of the vortex in action.

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I found a bottle that seems to work very well for these (Just started my first batch, but it seems to work very well for creating a vortex.

The bottle comes with some french vodka in it the brand is called Chambord, it has a upper part that came the closest to the shape that I have found locally. And it has a magnet of some sort in the… Read more

If history is a guide, I would guess it could be. Anytime anything is made that would be a threat to the staus quo, it gets squashed if possible.

from Moshe via e-mail
“what is coming from this for me, is that the cell may need to be connected to a 2nd battery in the car – once that is not connected to the chassis. this may make a big difference.
have to experiment with this now.”

My comeent.
This is kind of what I was thinking, cell and battery isolated from the truck,… Read more

I’m not an expert, but it seems to be a matter of balancing the flow rate, speed of the vortex and the opening size.

I suspect if you slowed the input speed the surface tension of the water would hold it together on exit. Maybe a larger input tube would slow it enough? (if your pump has a fixed flow rate the speed would be determined by… Read more

Surface tension could do that, from the bottom of the vortexer there is a little over an inch drop to the water. I did that so I could see the water coming out.

My understanding is that it should exit as a stream, not a cone, if that makes sense to you. Schauberger, I think, said it should be like a stream of “boar urine” (not sure of… Read more

I did have a question for you. What have you noticed as far as the noises your vortexer makes when you first start it up on a batch of water?

With the city tap water it starts with a sucking sound, then makes bubbling noises for maybe a few hours, then it gets quiet except for maybe a suction noise now and then.

With the spring water… Read more