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Moshe\’s Amazing Water Charging Vortexer
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In this video, I discuss and display the amazing water vortexer that I designed, which allows water to be continuously charged and vitalized by having it swirling in a vortex. Great for healing and charging water for the joe cell and moe-joe cell, this video demonstrates the first version of \”Moshe\’s Swirler,\” which was not able to sustain a vortex.
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I\’m a very lucky lady to be able to have one of these swirlers. I was very sick earlier this week on a day that I had to make multiple flights. I felt horrible all day – a headache, nausea, weakness and just a general horrible feeling. I rarely feel sick, but did for some reason that day. When I got home I immediately drank from this swirler. Within 5 minutes all of my sickness was gone. The headache that I had ALL day disappeared as did the nausea and weakness. I felt 100% normal!!!!!
If you are able to, build one! They are amazing and Moshe Daniel was brilliant with the vortex design!
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Great,great,
let me suggest implementing the ultimate \”Schauberger Trichter\” Design which can be viewed here.
I found that \”wine decanters\” are made of glass and often provide just the form of the hyperbolic asymptote that Schauberger favoured for vortex constructions.
Using a wine decanter and cutting off its bottom might create a even more energizing vortex.
God bless you.
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the y-axis rotating function of Schaubergers asymtotic hyperbel
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i just played with the screenshot and rotated it in a simple graphic-program…since the function is based on
x.y=1 it is complete symmetrical.
look for a glas structure that looks like this.
since glass is the most indifferent material it is highly preferable against others for drinking water.
One would have to look if copper, a favoured material of schauberger in the agricultural technology of his ,is even more useful. I would use it for building a vortex-energizer where the water is used in the garden and for plants, since it is the earth metal, as I learned from Moshe\’s alchmemic wisdom.
Schauberger and others used plows made of copper and garden tools made of copper which is said to have the most positive effect on growth.
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This is EXCELLENT information. I love this. Since I will be building more of my new Water Vortexers, I am most certainly going to look for this shape to build the next ones!
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I was wondering if you have ever thought of something along the lines of an Archimedes screw to fill a reservior and gravity feed the water through this? I have heard pumps are not good for what you are trying to get. Also if you are really creative you could serial feed several in a line, one from the out on another.
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Rob Eklund wrote:
quote :I was wondering if you have ever thought of something along the lines of an Archimedes screw to fill a reservior and gravity feed the water through this?Interesting. I hadn\’t thought of that in particular, but my friend Tophur had discussed with me his idea of using some Schauberger technology with some John Keely stuff too to use the shutting of valves on flowing water and the implosion principle to raise water against gravity.
quote :I have heard pumps are not good for what you are trying to get.can you say more of what you have heard?
i have some orgonite in the water, and although it is not ideal with the EMFs from the pump, believe me, the water is quite amazing.quote :Also if you are really creative you could serial feed several in a line, one from the out on another.that is pretty interesting.
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On the pump, I think it was in one of Schauberger\’s books, or in one about him, anyway they claimes that the centrifugal force, and the somewhat high pressure going through the pump, is not ideal. So I thought that the screw, or even using a bucket to lift the water and let gravity drive it down may increase the charge.
I know the the system will work, I do have something pretty similar. They were just ways that could possibly improve it, that are a bit out of my fabrication abilites at the moment.
Ill try to find the referance to the pump in my library again.
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thanks Rob.
Let me see if I can get Tophur (Chris Gardner) in on this discussion. he has some good ideas about this and has also studied some Schauberger.
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Hey Nutopians,
I have had the oportunnity to build a few \’Ram\’ pumps here in Costa Rica. They are very simple because they use the force from cavitation(implosion) as the motive power for the pump. The one I have built is online at Clemson.edu and costs roughly a hundred dollars to build correctly. This particular model would pump 1/8th of my water supply 200\’ above the pump, which was roughly 40\’ below the source using no electricity.
If you have ever turned a valve in a old house and heard the pipes shake this is cavitation. Essentially, water implodes when it\’s flow is abruptly stopped. In this case, our pump has two valves in sequence, one flap valve and than a spring loaded pressure valve. As the water supply fills the cavity between the two valves the pressure depresses the spring which automatically closes the overflow on the flap valve. The magic occurs on the front side of the check(spring) valve where there is a pressure chamber to amplify the shock wave of the implosion.
Refer to the internet for animations.
In my area these type of pumps have been operational for over 40 years. There seems to be two major drawbacks that to me can be overcome easily. One is they emit a large ping every second or so. This can be nerve racking especially in a tranquil forest environment. Two, the shock wave usually destroys the down pipe into the machine. Most of the money in set up should be securing the pump and the pipes leading into it. The shock wave travels all the way back to the source of the water!
Obviously these pumps are for areas where there is an abundance of water as they only can send a small volume vertically. We usually set them up so the overflow is directed into a pond. In my opinion these pumps do not jeopardize the structure of the water because the water is only pressurized for a split second and than the implosion converts that into kinetic energy. Schauberger was big on using temperature to verify the coherent quality of H20 and these pumps have a cooling effect. -
Greetings,
I built my first vortexer with the wine decanter as the master form….since it was a protoptype I focussed on experimenting. I took a normal wine decanter size and had two pumps to chhose from…one AC powered 400l/h mini pump, one similar 12Volt DC mini pump. I took a wine decanter and the proper drying stand and put it in a nice glas reservoir where the pump was fixed to the drying stand of the decanter. I filled the reservoir with raw gems for additional water energizing(astrologically chosen), at the most tapered point of the \”up-side down wine decanter\” I installed a little ring of neodym-magnet-balls coated with silver and gold formed to a ring for additional energizing in the eye of the vortex.
Results: The normal wine decanter size 0,75 or 1,0 L is much too big for a decent selfsustaining vortex…or to put it different, the 400l/h – 600l/h pumps are much too small for this decanter size….although I opened the decanter at the point with the biggest radius and shot in the water in the tangential way to maximize the effect, the water just followed the form, beautifully driven and curling, but not like a vortex I used to evoke with the simple devajal bottle energizers.
I did not like the AC pump either, since EMF of AC is more disturbing for the water than DC, so I took the DC Pump.
Though better in performance and taste it was still not enough to evoke a selfsustaining vortex and the water was not nearly as tasty as my \”reference\” water from my aquadea(TM) shower energizer (which I find much too expensive like all the products of these water firms—On the one hand they want this technique to be widespread, on the other hand their pricing is like injury award for all the suffering of the water scientists and the indignities they had to face eversince) Devajal has the cheapetst manual vortexer for bottles and http://www.wellnesswirbler.de has some reasonably priced for the watertap,which one can enhance by galvanizing the brass made cores with precious metals of one\’s choice)
I rebuilt the Devajal manual bottle energizer from waste bottle tops for some kids to make their eyes shine…if it is not open source or can be made of waste,then it is not worth copying, since this techniques are for all humans,especially the underprivileged in the robbed areas of this world to provide a physical method of cleaning chemically spoiled or unpure water since the Chemicals can stay in the water and will be deactivated to harmless ingredients as long as their information connection with the water is broken in the middle of the vortex(the eye of the water-storm) by the unlimited speed in its very centre)Back:
My decanter-vortexer prototype was constructed from glas and stainless steel, so the water never touched any petrochemical products, but the results did not match my expectations. (A tap was built in too to get some water out of the circulation,too-great idea,Moshe)I think the ongoing discussion solved 1/2 of the issue for me, since I also came to the conclusion that it had to be the explosion pressure using pump which took away some potential charging,as much as the correct pump or decanter sizing….which has to fit the logarythmic scaling of the universal vortexes and torusses.
Since the first one I built was not only prototype but also a gimmick/birthday present for a friend of mine and I was so glad to finally having completed it, I forgot to take some pictures but went straight on to the birthday party…
So I am building the second one this evening, and I am very grateful,thanking all participants of this discussion and the great ideas of constructing pumps with archimedes screws and this RAM pump Mr. Gardner posted.
My initial idea of using these little DC pumps was to exchange the built in motor with a bedini motor, and give two batteries and a switching device to it, so the vortexer would run with a Bedini motor pump,(zero-point-switching) and run at least 10 years with the two alternating batteries,one discharged,one charged at the same time,a switching circuit beetween them, making it a perpetuum mobile,energizing water.
The original wine-vortexer was planned that way, I just wanted to give a black box some weeks after the party to my friend,to provide power and a modified pump and let him wonder where to plug it in….for 10 years(lol).
But I guess a RAM pump and a second bigger reservoir above the wine decanter level will be favoured by me now ,downsizing the whole construction to a wine decanter of 0,25 L could be helpful, too…or choose a complete other form….even a cut glas water bottle will do the job,cause I identified the same Bedini like switching in the RAM pumps,the Bedini Chargers you build on your own or can order from renaissance charge do have the same clicking sound…. not water the medium, but charged particles…(though one can argue that water H2O/OH-/H3O+ molecules) consists of always charged particles as well.Since I charge all my batteries with Bedini technique and I am familiar with the science behind it, I can tell You the RAM pump does exactly the same with a water current,what the SSG-Circuit and a bedini motor does with an electron current….
It shakes the universal tree, turns away and the universe comes back with an overwhelming powerful answer to the initial shaking.
Or expressed physically: Induce some Resonance with some interacting universal processes/particles,lightning fast you lead/switch the mightfull answer of the universe/advaita to this induction to a different destination/reservoir/capacitor/battery and thus You are tapping the universal energy to gain overunity.
Or psycologigally:
Turn to the universe with a wish of yours, deepfully rethink your wish,letting it go,truthfully searching for a different solution,start to take the longer way ,without the shortcut the wish offered….this you can call the sucking kiss of yours,followed by a moment of rational decision that You do not need what you where willing to suck in with your kiss….but then \”the empire strikes back\”….the universe answers your humble sucking kiss by flooding you with a soaking wave of love,whichs plenty you never had expected in the first place,leaving you overwhelmed and grateful by its plenty and lordliness and creativity. Most of us are ued to use pressure to gain their goals and fail,we have to learn to conduct suction in humbleness.
That is all You need to know….that\’s the whole secret,build machines that work like that,repair/modify the old ones to mirror this new principle and work on your own consciousness and ability to re-/build your own universe by wishing and receiving-without-expecting from the universe. I try this as well in the moment,cause all is new to me,too. I found the god of my universe is the god of small things and I love him and feel deeply loved and assured.
If you feel comfortable and you have gotten familiar with this new consciousness,then live it,being an example for your family,loved ones, friends and strangers….prosper,thrive…be suction yourself,I failed to messianically change my friends and loved ones,because I was pressing.
When I realized that and I stopped pressing all got easier.
Letting my environment more room to explore what is going on with me and recognition of the change opened opportunity: maybe some ideas could be useful in their own lifes…(they want choice,like everyone,like the universe has offered eversince)
We have nothing to fear.
To choose for one\’s life to overcome the mind of scarcity and say hello to plenty,saying good-bye to the old dying system with respect and appreciation for the darkness it has conducted to make it easier for us to find the light again to re-balance our world.
Let us not \”rage against the machine\”, but show respect to it,since it developed the most natural way -all of it- though seeming futile,like vanity and misanthropic.It is the only \”planet of choice\”(Thx Moshe),so to bring as many souls as possible to the tipping point it is useful and reasonable to conduct darkness and fear…to create global imbalance…to create balance again, to create imbalance on the other side again in a far away future…breathing,wonderfully uplifting,admirable universe.
Our immortal souls if manifested in the dualistic world sense the wiseness behind it all,though our rational thinking blocks a lot,we feel it is all full of wonders,it is our wonderful home,our basement,where we all come from,are fed from and now it lets us choose to be lifted…so let\’s start choosing.
All the best.
Joachim
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Christopher Gardner wrote:
quote :Hey Nutopians,I have had the oportunnity to build a few \’Ram\’ pumps here in Costa Rica. They are very simple because they use the force from cavitation(implosion) as the motive power for the pump. The one I have built is online at Clemson.edu and costs roughly a hundred dollars to build correctly. This particular model would pump 1/8th of my water supply 200\’ above the pump, which was roughly 40\’ below the source using no electricity.
Tophur, that is so awesome.
brilliant. and like Joachim states, the principles of flow, for both water and electricity, for example, involving implosion, are the same.Tophur mentioned clemson.edu is where the Ram pump is located -here\’s the precise link
http://www.clemson.edu/irrig/equip/ram.htmThanks for posting Tophur.
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I found a bottle that seems to work very well for these (Just started my first batch, but it seems to work very well for creating a vortex.
The bottle comes with some french vodka in it the brand is called Chambord, it has a upper part that came the closest to the shape that I have found locally. And it has a magnet of some sort in the cap already, I carefully drilled a .25\” (6.35mm) hole in it and am using a repurposed pump from a decrotive fountain for now. I also put some n50 magnets alternating poles, around the neck.
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A view of the vortex in action.
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Rob Eklund wrote:
quote :I found a bottle that seems to work very well for these (Just started my first batch, but it seems to work very well for creating a vortex.The bottle comes with some french vodka in it the brand is called Chambord, it has a upper part that came the closest to the shape that I have found locally. And it has a magnet of some sort in the cap already, I carefully drilled a .25\” (6.35mm) hole in it and am using a repurposed pump from a decrotive fountain for now. I also put some n50 magnets alternating poles, around the neck.
that is an AMAZING bottle .
it\’d be great to find one empty, to not have to drink the Vodka… unless you like that…About the magnets -howdo you feel drinking the water with the alternating poles?
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the south poles create aggressive – Yang water, and the north poles very relaxed, passive YIN water.alternating magnets 3 + 3 = too yang.
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I would guess the poles may change according to what you may need, I have been told by several people that I am the most easy going person they have ever met. whith that said it seems to work good for me. I think its a matter of finding what works for whoever is drinking it. My daughter likes it better with a balance towards south poles as well.
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This is what I am playing with now, it is that vodka bottle made into a vortexer, that also works as the lid for the dispensing jar.
It is still a work in progess, but it does seem to charge the water. With tap water it does start out with a cone underneath, after it runs for a hour or two it becomes a stream.
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Rob Eklund wrote:
quote :This is what I am playing with now, it is that vodka bottle made into a vortexer, that also works as the lid for the dispensing jar.It is still a work in progess, but it does seem to charge the water. With tap water it does start out with a cone underneath, after it runs for a hour or two it becomes a stream.
Here is the picture of Rob\’s new setup
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Just checking, what would you think of repurposing a trumpet or bugle if one could be found at a garagesale type of situation? The shape seems about right.
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Rob Eklund wrote:
quote :Just checking, what would you think of repurposing a trumpet or bugle if one could be found at a garagesale type of situation? The shape seems about right.Shape is good.
metal is okay – may make for an interesting dynamic.
my problem with that is – i so love to watch the vortex.
almost seems like a shame not to be able to see it.there are some awesome shapes in clear glass.
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I am working on a version with an air powered pump as an assist to bump up the volume of water moved without exposing it to any em fields, it looks like it can be done with an aquarium air pump as the main power.
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I am very interested in what you come up with…
to decrease exposure of EMFs.
i know the water is great, even as it moves through the qater pump, but without EMFs… at all, that will be something great to see.looking forward to seeing your design.
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from what I have seen, it can by done from stuff bought at a pet store. a half inch tee fitting some hose and an air pump. also the air going down the vortex can add air bubbles to increase the flow rate.
the ram pump is very interesting but I dont have access to the volumes needed to make it work.
here is a link to the thought I am going down.
I have seen a lot of these under geyser pump mainly for hydroponics
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Rob, that is interesting.
I don\’t know if that will work for the vortexer.
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working out the sizes of the \”T\” and tubes it looks like it may be able to move enough water, but it comes in spurts.
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There may be some \”crossover\” between the Joe cell and moe-joe cell \’unit charge\’ theory by James Goss, and the development of negative ions on the swirlers. check this thread out – Latest From James Gosshttp://www.nutopia.cc/forum/joe-cell/363-james-goss-qunit-chargeq-joe-cell-theory?limit=10&start=20#475
In particular this quote is relevant to the Swirlers:
quote :\”I recall that water fountains used for generating negative ions will only produce ions for extended periods of time if the pump motor is referenced to earth ground, as it is on a 120 volt AC pump motor. Ground reference within the AC line bleeds off positive charge buildup in the water so as to not attract negative ions that have already been released.\” James Goss -
At this point I can say that I have tried to use the bubble pump as an assist for a feline water fountain drinking system. As far as keeping a vortex going it does, as a secondary pump. I do still have a normal 12vdc pump powering the system, while it will creat a vortex of sorts, the bubble pump it makes gives it the added oomph to fill the system and get it to work as intended.
I can say that the cat that does drink from this does seem to act much more kitten like than he has in years. however being a mostly healthy cat, it is hard to say if it has made a difference that way.
the room however does feel cooler and lighter than it was before.
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At this point I can say that I have tried to use the bubble pump as an assist for a feline water fountain drinking system. As far as keeping a vortex going it does, as a secondary pump. I do still have a normal 12vdc pump powering the system, while it will creat a vortex of sorts, the bubble pump it makes gives it the added oomph to fill the system and get it to work as intended.
I can say that the cat that does drink from this does seem to act much more kitten like than he has in years. however being a mostly healthy cat, it is hard to say if it has made a difference that way.
the room however does feel cooler and lighter than it was before.
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Cool Rob.
I also notice an enhanced energy in the room with the vortexer.
our water tastes better too, after vortexing.
We have a slight sulphur and metallic taste from our artesian well.
After vortexing for a few hours, the taste is gone and the water is very
easy to drink – feels softer, and it\’s very easy to absorb.
all those microclusters in the water are broken down to pure H2O.Somewhat unrelated, but nevertheless cool, video:
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The bubble pump I have is \”powered\” from the bubbles that are coming out of the bottom of the vodka bottle I had pictured earlier. The 12v pump makes enough of a vortex that it has air bubbles coming out of the bottom.
However with that pump alone the largest opening I was able to have in the bottom was 1/4 inch (6.35mm) with the bubble assist I can fill the bottle halfway and keep it there with a 3/8\” (9.525mm) opening in the bottom.
I don\’t know if or how the info would be of value to anyone here, but it may be.
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