Nu-Humanity for a New Earth Forums Moe-Joe Cell Moshe\’s Amazing Water Charging Vortexer

  • Rob Eklund

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    June 10, 2012 at 6:27 am

    I would guess the poles may change according to what you may need, I have been told by several people that I am the most easy going person they have ever met. whith that said it seems to work good for me. I think its a matter of finding what works for whoever is drinking it. My daughter likes it better with a balance towards south poles as well.

  • Rob Eklund

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    June 19, 2012 at 3:34 am

    This is what I am playing with now, it is that vodka bottle made into a vortexer, that also works as the lid for the dispensing jar.

    It is still a work in progess, but it does seem to charge the water. With tap water it does start out with a cone underneath, after it runs for a hour or two it becomes a stream.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    June 19, 2012 at 3:44 am

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    This is what I am playing with now, it is that vodka bottle made into a vortexer, that also works as the lid for the dispensing jar.

    It is still a work in progess, but it does seem to charge the water. With tap water it does start out with a cone underneath, after it runs for a hour or two it becomes a stream.

    Here is the picture of Rob\’s new setup


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  • Rob Eklund

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    June 20, 2012 at 1:06 am

    Just checking, what would you think of repurposing a trumpet or bugle if one could be found at a garagesale type of situation? The shape seems about right.

  • Moshe Daniel

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    June 20, 2012 at 2:18 am

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    Just checking, what would you think of repurposing a trumpet or bugle if one could be found at a garagesale type of situation? The shape seems about right.

    Shape is good.
    metal is okay – may make for an interesting dynamic.
    my problem with that is – i so love to watch the vortex.
    almost seems like a shame not to be able to see it.

    there are some awesome shapes in clear glass.
    Joachim showed some pictures of that sort of shape earlier. You can even take a big 5 litre jug and turn it upside down…

  • Rob Eklund

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    June 26, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I am working on a version with an air powered pump as an assist to bump up the volume of water moved without exposing it to any em fields, it looks like it can be done with an aquarium air pump as the main power.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    June 27, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I am very interested in what you come up with…
    to decrease exposure of EMFs.
    i know the water is great, even as it moves through the qater pump, but without EMFs… at all, that will be something great to see.

    looking forward to seeing your design.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    June 27, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    from what I have seen, it can by done from stuff bought at a pet store. a half inch tee fitting some hose and an air pump. also the air going down the vortex can add air bubbles to increase the flow rate.

    the ram pump is very interesting but I dont have access to the volumes needed to make it work.

    here is a link to the thought I am going down.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L2Y9ftYKKU&feature=related

    I have seen a lot of these under geyser pump mainly for hydroponics

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    June 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Rob, that is interesting.
    I don\’t know if that will work for the vortexer.
    Let me know how it goes.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 1, 2012 at 3:14 am

    working out the sizes of the \”T\” and tubes it looks like it may be able to move enough water, but it comes in spurts.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    July 9, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    There may be some \”crossover\” between the Joe cell and moe-joe cell \’unit charge\’ theory by James Goss, and the development of negative ions on the swirlers. check this thread out – Latest From James Gosshttp://www.nutopia.cc/forum/joe-cell/363-james-goss-qunit-chargeq-joe-cell-theory?limit=10&start=20#475

    In particular this quote is relevant to the Swirlers:

    quote :

    \”I recall that water fountains used for generating negative ions will only produce ions for extended periods of time if the pump motor is referenced to earth ground, as it is on a 120 volt AC pump motor. Ground reference within the AC line bleeds off positive charge buildup in the water so as to not attract negative ions that have already been released.\” James Goss
  • Rob Eklund

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    October 20, 2012 at 2:12 am

    At this point I can say that I have tried to use the bubble pump as an assist for a feline water fountain drinking system. As far as keeping a vortex going it does, as a secondary pump. I do still have a normal 12vdc pump powering the system, while it will creat a vortex of sorts, the bubble pump it makes gives it the added oomph to fill the system and get it to work as intended.

    I can say that the cat that does drink from this does seem to act much more kitten like than he has in years. however being a mostly healthy cat, it is hard to say if it has made a difference that way.

    the room however does feel cooler and lighter than it was before.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    October 20, 2012 at 3:44 am

    At this point I can say that I have tried to use the bubble pump as an assist for a feline water fountain drinking system. As far as keeping a vortex going it does, as a secondary pump. I do still have a normal 12vdc pump powering the system, while it will creat a vortex of sorts, the bubble pump it makes gives it the added oomph to fill the system and get it to work as intended.

    I can say that the cat that does drink from this does seem to act much more kitten like than he has in years. however being a mostly healthy cat, it is hard to say if it has made a difference that way.

    the room however does feel cooler and lighter than it was before.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    October 21, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Cool Rob.
    I also notice an enhanced energy in the room with the vortexer.
    our water tastes better too, after vortexing.
    We have a slight sulphur and metallic taste from our artesian well.
    After vortexing for a few hours, the taste is gone and the water is very
    easy to drink – feels softer, and it\’s very easy to absorb.
    all those microclusters in the water are broken down to pure H2O.

    Somewhat unrelated, but nevertheless cool, video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FA2H1HiL3o

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    October 27, 2012 at 2:07 am

    The bubble pump I have is \”powered\” from the bubbles that are coming out of the bottom of the vodka bottle I had pictured earlier. The 12v pump makes enough of a vortex that it has air bubbles coming out of the bottom.

    However with that pump alone the largest opening I was able to have in the bottom was 1/4 inch (6.35mm) with the bubble assist I can fill the bottle halfway and keep it there with a 3/8\” (9.525mm) opening in the bottom.

    I don\’t know if or how the info would be of value to anyone here, but it may be.

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