Polishing and charging the moe-joe cell.

[Nathaniel Morales]

Ok i got my cell but i have not washed it yet, but what do i need to polish it?

and what about a charger?

thanks.

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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Ok i got my cell but i have not washed it yet, but what do i need to polish it?

Hey Nathaniel,

Great that you got your cell.

With polishing, there are 2 options.
One is manually, and the other is electropolishing.

Electropolishing is incredible – it is the easiest, and with the best results. But the most expensive.
Check out these pictures from the moe-joe-cell Global community and http://www.moe-joe-cell.com –

Click here for more electropolishing pictures.

the other way to polish is to just use a very fine sand paper… and to spin the hemispheres using a drill press or a lathe, and to press on the steel with the sandpaper (very fine) while it is spinning.

Perhaps others can share other ideas about polishing?

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and what about a charger?
thanks.

your easiest and probably best bet for charging, especially to get started, is just a 12V battery – car, marine, or 2 6V camping batteries hooked up in series to combine for 12 volts.
you apply the negative to the inner sphere (bismuth core threaded bolt) and the +ve to the outer 5\” sphere.

let us know if you have any m ore questions.

check out this page for more answers on charging the moe-joe cell – http://www.moe-joe-working.com/Moe-Joe-Cell/moe_joe_cell_charging.html

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[Nathaniel Morales]

Still not sure which way to polish the cell.

For charging, do i need to put it in water or can i change the cell by itself?

[Svea Block]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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Still not sure which way to polish the cell.

which way appeals to you more?

by the way, it is not necessary to polish the cell to get results. it looks nicer, for sure, and probably has a better orgone reflection system inside the cell, but is not 100% necessary.

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For charging, do i need to put it in water or can i change the cell by itself?

you have to fill the cell, at the very least, with water, to charge it, if it\’s the car kit.
you have a water charging kit, right?
So, yeah, you\’ll have to find a vessel to put the cell into. Go to Target. they have nice glass bowls that the cell fits into. I got mine there.

it looks like this:

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[Nathaniel Morales]

yea i have the water charging kit.
I just washed the cell with soap.

Would this be a good battery charger for the cell?
:edit: this battery for alarms…..dont buy it.

And the water that is used, it must be from a river?
i have one of these.
http://www.cherokeegold.net/mawatr.html
can i use it to \”charge\” the kitchen filtered water?

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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And the water that is used, it must be from a river?
i have one of these.
http://www.cherokeegold.net/mawatr.html
can i use it to \”charge\” the kitchen filtered water?

If it does what it says it does, then, yeah, you could use it. Do you know how it operates? Under what principles? Is it the magnet water trap? You could possibly build one yourself, and save a few $$$.

[Nathaniel Morales]

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and what about a charger?
thanks.

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your easiest and probably best bet for charging, especially to get started, is just a 12V battery – car, marine, or 2 6V camping batteries hooked up in series to combine for 12 volts.
you apply the negative to the inner sphere (bismuth core threaded bolt) and the +ve to the outer 5\” sphere.

let us know if you have any m ore questions.

check out this page for more answers on charging the moe-joe cell – http://www.moe-joe-working.com/Moe-Joe-Cell/moe_joe_cell_charging.html

hi moshe,
so i can connect the wires to the top only? ok i think i get.
but how long would i charge it for and to get to stage three, also to filter the water.
and how much water will i need to fill it up?

[Nathaniel Morales]

OK, i connected the a charger to my cell but nothing happened. i used batteries and nothing also. what was i doing wrong? what am i suppose to see at first?

[Moshe Daniel]

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hi moshe,
so i can connect the wires to the top only? ok i think i get. but how long would i charge it for and to get to stage three, also to filter the water. and how much water will i need to fill it up?

Hi Nathaniel,

What batteries are you charging with?

It\’s best to connect the negative of the battery to the BOTTOM of the inner sphere (normally, the bismuth core). and the positive, you connect to the top.

Stage 3 – is not something many of us are aiming for… at least in terms of the appearance of bubbles. that requires high voltage and high current – around 1 amp.

i suggest charging with a 12 volt battery for 3-5 minutes, 3 times / day, for around 4-7 days.
You have to feel out the water. In other words, sense the charge of Orgone in it.
You will become more sensitive to it as you go along.

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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OK, i connected the a charger to my cell but nothing happened. i used batteries and nothing also. what was i doing wrong? what am i suppose to see at first?

hi Nate, you should see some small bubbles coming up and out of the cell.
Can you share a couple of pictures of your setup, so we can troubleshoot?
Also, include the batteries you\’re using in the picture.
Are you sure they are fully charged?

[Nathaniel Morales]

ok heres my setup. its not connected, i used regular batteries, i connected them, and i did not see any bubbles.

and this is another battery charger i tried with.

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[Rob Eklund]

It looks like the water level is not over the hole on the top, in that case you wouldnt see any bubbles. if you put your ear close to the opening in the top you may hear them.

[Nathaniel Morales]

Rob Eklund wrote:

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It looks like the water level is not over the hole on the top, in that case you wouldnt see any bubbles. if you put your ear close to the opening in the top you may hear them.

the water is above the holes. i dont see any bubbles.

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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ok heres my setup. its not connected, i used regular batteries, i connected them, and i did not see any bubbles.
and this is another battery charger i tried with.

Hi Nathaniel.

Nice job there!
You drilled a hole in the bottom of the glass?

I wouldn\’t charge the cell with a battery charger.
Can you take a pic of the batteries you\’re actually using?

Also, do you have a multimeter, or at the very least, a voltmeter, that also reads current (amperage)?

I am wondering if
a) your batteries are full
b) if your moe-joe cell is missing a connection inside.

Also, can you take a pic of a closeup of the cell from the top. i want to see what you have there.

you have the negative coming in on the bottom, right?

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[Nathaniel Morales]

yea i made a hole through the bottom.
I used those regular batteries for like tv remotes. i connected 8 together, and they were new.
the negative was connected to the bottom.

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[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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yea i made a hole through the bottom.
I used those regular batteries for like tv remotes. i connected 8 together, and they were new.
the negative was connected to the bottom.

Hi Nathaniel.

The TV batteties – you mean 1.5 volts?

you have them connected in series (end to end) or in parallel?

also, it is very important to insulate the bolt coming up out of the top of the cell from the bismuth core / inner sphere. If this is left uninsulated, it allows for a very very short distance for the current to flow between the inner bolt to the outer 5\” sphere. it\’s less than 1/4\” and it throws the entire balance of the cell off. so that is one thing.

if you had that like that, and you ran 12 volts, you\’d see a lot of activity cause of that close-to-short current channel. so it makes me think, one of your leads is not hooked up properly.

how did you assemble the stainless steel nuts on the outside of the 2\” sphere, and also the shorter bolt on the inside of the 5\”?

this would be easier if you could measure a current with a multimeter while charging.
do you have one?
can you borrow someone\’s?

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[Nathaniel Morales]

Ok. Moshe, I bought a car battery and connected it to the cell. I heard the bubble noise or it sounded like boiling water. I saw little bubbles but only a few. Do More bubbles appear after each charge? I did not feel anything tho. I just need to cover the bolt on top better

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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Ok. Moshe, I bought a car battery and connected it to the cell. I heard the bubble noise or it sounded like boiling water. I saw little bubbles but only a few. Do More bubbles appear after each charge? I did not feel anything tho. I just need to cover the bolt on top better

Nathaniel,
that\’s good.
for feeling the energy of the cell: give it some time.
with each subsequent charging, the water will get stronger with orgone, and the field will build up.

how long are you charging for?

yeah, covering the bolt at the top is important for maintaining the proper field.

[Nathaniel Morales]

i charge it for 5 min 2 or 3 times a day.

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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i charge it for 5 min 2 or 3 times a day.

that\’s good!
keep it up.
let us know if you feel the field building.

are you still seeing some bubbles there?

[Nathaniel Morales]

Well the bubbles look like just air bubbles not soapy kind. Earlier today I sat next to the cell when I connected it, I felt like chi in my chest and stomach area. Since I practice doaist breathing but not sure if it was because of the cell that I felt a burst of energy. I was just sitting there thinking, so I can\’t really say what it was.

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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Well the bubbles look like just air bubbles not soapy kind. Earlier today I sat next to the cell when I connected it, I felt like chi in my chest and stomach area. Since I practice doaist breathing but not sure if it was because of the cell that I felt a burst of energy. I was just sitting there thinking, so I can\’t really say what it was.

that seems like an appropriate response to the orgone generated by the moe-joe cell. so yeah, good! you should grow more sensitive to it and feel it more deeply.