• Wishes.

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    July 11, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Hey Moshe,

    What kind of wishes can we pray for when using the moe-joe cell?

    and what comes out of this bismuth core? spiritus mundi?

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    July 13, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    Nathaniel Morales wrote:

    quote :

    Hey Moshe,

    What kind of wishes can we pray for when using the moe-joe cell?

    You can pray or focus on manifesting any wish.
    The moe-joe cell creates a field of balanced positive energy, that opens up the zero point field. The zero point field is a zone of pure potential – so all intentions can be accelerated and/ enhanced with the cell, especially while it is charging and while you are in meditation.

    quote :

    and what comes out of this bismuth core? spiritus mundi?

    hmmm, Spiritus mundi…
    I think there is a way of setting up the cell to collect spiritus mundi, but it is very advanced. I think now, what comes out of the core of the cell, is more like scalar waves, a balanced form of orgone, \”zero point field juice\” – forgive the very unscientific term. 😛

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 13, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    You can wish/pray/manifest anything you may like as far as I can tell. The only thing that I have found is to do it in a way that no one loses anything. If everyone wins nothing is out of reach.

    I guess I should be more specific, do not try to take something away from anyone, and be careful how you form your \”wish\” if you focus on the wanting of something.. you will get more wanting of it.
    (but not the thing itself)

    In other words the more you worry or are consumed with the not having of it, the more you will not have it. if you happen to be in that state now I would not recommend using an amplifier to assist you.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    July 14, 2012 at 3:41 am

    it\’s true Rob.
    I like to word my prayers / intentions to the Creator in the following: \”Thank you God for blessing me with peace of mind and heart so I can greater serve.\”

    I thank God for the blessing of the wish I am intending on…

    never use the power of the cell, or any prayer for that matter, to harm another.

    Moshe

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 14, 2012 at 6:33 am

    I have two very rough quotes I use for manifesting..
    first he who has faith even the size of a mustard seed can move can cast mountains into the sea.

    second (and unrelated) by the time one can move mountains by his thought realizes they are perfect right where they are.

    just saying

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    July 17, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    ok so.
    if i would want to pray for an better paying job. like for example a job that pays 20 bucks or more an hour.
    how would i pray for it? is it even possible?

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    July 18, 2012 at 3:54 am

    hi Nathaniel,

    I am a little reluctant to use the moe-joe cell for every single wish or need. However, there\’s nothing wrong with being more comfortable financially, for instance, with a better paying job.
    Usually, one looks to the underlying desire.
    More financial abundance.
    i would stay away from a higher paying job.
    i would also stay away from defining how much you want to make per hour, especially since, once you open yourself to receive more financial wealth / abundance, you could land a job that pays even more than you\’re asking for now.

    I also would like to say that I find many people tend to go right to the money issue with manifesting – ie The Secret. that is so heavily tilted toward money, manifesting stuff, things, that it is a big turn off for me to see.
    I suggest beginning with even more important things – like joy, happiness, friendship, health, and then later, work your way into the material things like job, pay, salary, etc.

    there is nothing wrong with manifesting a better paying job. but if that is the only focus with the cell and with manifestation, then i\’d say, it is out of balance.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 18, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    If it was up to me, I would focus on the comfort level and way of life that you want. Go about it as if it is already yours, it just hasn\’t shown up yet.

    Envision it as it would be once it has happened. Use all the emotions, sights, sounds hold it for a minute or two. then the hard part! let it go and do its work. Release it totally do not dwell on it! In my experiance it can take up to two weeks to come to pass.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 18, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    If it was up to me, I would focus on the comfort level and way of life that you want. Go about it as if it is already yours, it just hasn\’t shown up yet.

    Envision it as it would be once it has happened. Use all the emotions, sights, sounds hold it for a minute or two. then the hard part! let it go and do its work. Release it totally do not dwell on it! In my experiance it can take up to two weeks to come to pass.

    In that time do what you feel guided to do, if it seems right do it. It may not make sense but for whatever reason it is needed. The universe/god/higher power (whatever fits for you) will guide you to the door.. but you still have to open it.

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    July 25, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Ok this is good stuff to know. thanks

    Can we pray for knowledge also?
    specifically how to make the philosophers stone, and condensing pure spiritus mundi?

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    July 27, 2012 at 3:11 am

    Nathaniel Morales wrote:

    quote :

    Ok this is good stuff to know. thanks
    Can we pray for knowledge also?
    specifically how to make the philosophers stone, and condensing pure spiritus mundi?

    You can pray for anything.
    the thing is, depending on how far you are to be able to accept and receive that which you pray for, will determine how long it takes to receive…
    this is also including the understanding that you have to take the necessary steps to be in position to accept and receive what you\’re praying for.

    Praying for the knowledge to make the philosopher\’s stone is a VERY advanced prayer request.
    However, when you pray, you will accelerate the rate at which that knowledge comes, and teachers come to share it with you.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 27, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Not that mine is the best, or only way. It did however work for me to start small.

    I started with some trivial things such as a mickey mouse pencil, seeing someone at random that I havent seen in years, getting people that have been long out of contact to call etc.

    For me it was a way to practice and to build confidence that it does work.

    One thing I have noticed is there is a very specific feeling for Me when I have done the prayer right and it is coming, I can\’t describe it, but it will feel \”done\”. That is My signal to release it.

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    July 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    this will be interesting.
    havnt charged the cell yet. gotta set it up….

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    July 30, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Just a btw, the cell doesn\’t make the wishes or manifesting possible, you can do that with one, it does add a type of power to it however.

    read that again and it sounded wrong. you can do the prayers and manifest without them. but they add to it

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    July 30, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    Just a btw, the cell doesn\’t make the wishes or manifesting possible, you can do that with one, it does add a type of power to it however.

    read that again and it sounded wrong. you can do the prayers and manifest without them. but they add to it

    yea i was thinking about this today…i guess you confirmed it.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    July 31, 2012 at 4:49 am

    Nathaniel Morales wrote:

    quote :

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    Just a btw, the cell doesn\’t make the wishes or manifesting possible, you can do that with one, it does add a type of power to it however.

    read that again and it sounded wrong. you can do the prayers and manifest without them. but they add to it

    yea i was thinking about this today…i guess you confirmed it.

    yeah that is a great, simple way of putting it Rob.
    Thanks.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    August 1, 2012 at 12:16 am

    for someone with english as a first language i type it most goodly.

    anyway a section on manifesting may not be a bad idea? It is a big foot in the door for other ideals here I think.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    August 1, 2012 at 3:47 am

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    anyway a section on manifesting may not be a bad idea? It is a big foot in the door for other ideals here I think.

    sometimes forum posts just evolve in a certain way, like this thread – and we are sharing our thouhts about manifesting, though not officially somewhere, per se.

    where would you suggest having it?

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    August 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    I didn\’t see a good spot for it, the thing is that in a was it touched almost everything in the forums.

    Would it be worth making a new heading for it?

    I know if there was a place to read about how it was done it could of saved me a lot of frustration in the beginning.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    August 1, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    I didn\’t see a good spot for it, the thing is that in a was it touched almost everything in the forums.
    Would it be worth making a new heading for it?

    Perhaps in the blogs section.
    I shall think on it.

    quote :

    I know if there was a place to read about how it was done it could of saved me a lot of frustration in the beginning.

    what are you referring to exactly? online here, or generally in your life?
    not following.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    August 1, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    just general in my life, I can have a very hard head at times.

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    August 2, 2012 at 2:47 am

    I guess for me, what would of helped when I started was just a general set of guidelines as to how to go about it. I think I made every mistake known to man. Literally I picked up how to do it by working out what not to do one mistake at a time.

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    August 2, 2012 at 3:25 am

    Rob Eklund wrote:

    quote :

    I guess for me, what would of helped when I started was just a general set of guidelines as to how to go about it. I think I made every mistake known to man. Literally I picked up how to do it by working out what not to do one mistake at a time.

    Some people learn the best that way. like me too! Lol.
    I am a taurus, sag rising.
    i do learn the best on my own.
    Unless I really trust the teacher, and they have pure integrity (very rare) – then I can learn from them.

    What zodiac sign are you?

    Moshe

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    August 2, 2012 at 4:48 am

    Leo july 25th. and maybe not the quickest and definatly not the easiest, but how I learn

  • Rob Eklund

    Member
    August 2, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Leo july 25th. and maybe not the quickest and definatly not the easiest, but how I learn

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    August 24, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Ok so I got the cell to charge. Not sure what pray for. Yea.
    Is it possible to pray to receive dreams about certain information?

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    August 26, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Nathaniel Morales wrote:

    quote :

    Ok so I got the cell to charge. Not sure what pray for. Yea.
    Is it possible to pray to receive dreams about certain information?

    yes, of course. remember, you can pray for anything you would pray for ordinarily. So, could you pray to receive revealing / informative dreams? yes!

    To me, that is a noble prayer. not that any prayer is wrong / bad, but that is certainly a noble prayer.

  • Nathaniel Morales

    Member
    February 9, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    the only \”wish\” that seemed to come true is someone let me know how to do an alchemical process.
    but i felt unbalanced following that, but i guess the cell works or maybe it was coincidence…still have my doubts.dont know why.
    nothing else seems to come to pass tho.

    what does everyone else wish for?

    moshe, if you made a sphinx sphere with the gold silver and platinum spheres, how powerful would that be compared to the sphere with steel?

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