[Moshe Daniel]

Alexander Notzon wrote:

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hallo,

sry for my broken english

Alexander, your broken English is much better than my broken German. I must thank you and everyone here on Nutopia, for speaking English now.
Until we remember the Universal language, we must use English here. Soon, there will be more translated pages… in other languages, and then we will all speak the universal language again.

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i try alex schiffer´s way with the mojoe cell because i have the german book from alex schiffer.

i have vinegar 90 % (more than water) but i come not to 12 volt 1 amp.
the best was 62 volt 1,7 amp only with a little bit magesium salt, the vinegar is no help.

I never ever use any electrolyte. this is really only for HHO or hydrogren production – it is not for generating the orgone.

I suggest you disassemble the cell, clean it, and then reassemble and use only pure water.
Or, you can rinse it out a few times without taking it apart. This is also an option.

Lately, I have also only been using low voltage. This is something that Arno and our friends from the Netherlands really recommend. Low voltage, low current.
Making big bubblees with a lot of voltage looks nice but it is not what we really want.
Alex Schiffer\’s idea of bubbles and stage 3 is only a theory, and with lower voltage you can get good results with the cell but not see the signs of stage 3.
It is not important.

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the threaded rod going out from the bismutcore, i have buy a threaded rod from the internet m5 v4a.

the small sphere is perhaps not conectet to the threaded rod?

this is a possibility.
Try to do the following \”fix\” which I have suggested in your package when you ordered the moe-joe cell:

\”There is an alternative method of assembly which provides a better, stronger electric connection between the stainless steel bolt bringing the –ve electricity and the outer surface of the 2” inner sphere, but this does require a little more preparation.

Take two of the Faddie spacers (big clear spacers as seen in #6 on page 2 of the Exploded View) and drill one side of them out (making the hole wider) with a ½” wood or plastic drill bit until the hole that is drilled is around ½ way through the length of the Faddie spacer.
Then instead of using the 4 round washers as seen in #3A on pg two and step #2 on page 3, use two of the stainless steel nuts as seen in #8 on page 2. You have been provided with four. Two for this alternative method to contact the 2” inner sphere and secure it and two also for the outside, to tighten the whole assembly on the outside of the 5” sphere when the Moe-Joe cell is fully assembled.\”

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without silicon is the cell leaky.

yes. the cell will leak water without silicon / goop.
I use goop even though silicon is a \”cleaner\” glue, bc silicon makes a mess and is impossible to clean up and goop, once it is dried, it leaves no residue when you pull it off.

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what acid did you take?

I never use any acid.

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my goal is it that work the generator with free energy.

edit: pics are to big, i have got to compress next time.

that is a good goal… that is also my goal too.

Your generator is better to be 4 stroke engine, water cooled, gas powered. Is it?

Air cooled engines are difficult to work with because the moe joe cells\’ energies are working through the medium of water.

Moshe

[Moshe Daniel]

Joachim, Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with us, your passion and to introduce yourself. Also, thank you so much for contributing on your personal page so much of yourself!! Be blessed and may your journey continue to unfold with knowledge, wisdom, peace, and love!! (what binds the Universe!)

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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So we will need unglazed clay pots. I will buy some a do this experiment. I think i would need to go on a diet to get good urine.

That is an amazing experiment.
I wonder which salt this would be considered…
in r/t the book of Abraham the Jew.

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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The only thing about this is you have to use urine? Everyone heard about it, it makes the house stink. :S

I like a process that doesn\’t require too much shopping. 😛

[Moshe Daniel]

Nathaniel Morales wrote:

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here i found this, its not about the aurum potabile
its about the Mercury which we want.

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2451-The-Celestial-Agriculture/page3

Read rogerc post. Sound similar to abraham the jews way to get the spirit.

Nate,
this is a very good discussion. Thank you!!!! for sharing it. I do love rogerc\’s post about 3/4s of the way down – the very long one – and yes, it is much like the book of Abraham the Jew – which discusses the mixing of two salts – of the air and of the earth.

I also liked the comment above to be careful / mindful of some of the RAMS collection. Well, sheesh, studying ANY alchemy, one has to be mindful, very mindful, and also careful.

[Moshe Daniel]

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Was the picture you attached your aurum potabile?

No. Not mine. Just a nice looking golden brew in a vial. 🙂

[Moshe Daniel]

That doesn\’t sound like the true Aurum potabile at all to me. That sounds like an archemist recipe for gold sulphate or something… I thought one of the paths to the aurum potabile came from making the Stone, but was not quite the fully evolved Stone. I\’ve read many things about it, but this doesn\’t seem like a true Aurum potabile to me.

[Moshe Daniel]

Tony, thank you for your big heart, all your love, and for leaving this feedback with us. We really appreciate it and we really appreciate you.

Also, so much gratitude to Arno, to Ella, Conchita, to Luc, Svea, and all of our friends from this circle!!

Can\’t wait for next session on January 8th, 2012 at 1pm EST.

Peace, love, and unity,
Moshe

[Moshe Daniel]

Hi Nathaniel…

So, with the aurum potabile, it is supposed to be very powerful, and used with caution. But, it should not be deadly. If it is deadly, it is not made correctly. So the question is – is it the true aurum potabile?

Which method have you looked at for making the Aurum potabile?

[Moshe Daniel]

Thank you everyone for being a part of this wonderful healing session. We felt so much love… a deep quickening powerful energy. Our friends Nathalie and Stephanie who were also sitting inside the Healing chamber and standing next to the moe-joe cells, felt so much and felt the presence of a \”great healer\”. I know this energy comes through the moe-joe cell. The moe-joe cell provides a very very nice healing energy, but with all the prayers and all the intentions that have moved through the cells, now they
are conduits for special Beings from another dimension to come and heal us – and this is what they do.

I feel a great \”opening\” up of the space in the room – like the dimensions of the walls go much father out than the actual physical space. I felt so much light and love come into my body into the spaces that need healing.

I really appreciate everyone being a part of this.

Our next and THIRD GB session will be Sunday January 8th, 2012 at 1pm Eastern Standard Time.
Please be a part of it.

[Moshe Daniel]

What follows here is the most amazing discussion that was shared during the first Global Charging Session. This was written live via the group chat while we were all in the field, experiencing the love and the powerful healing of our connection Circle. I will never forget this feeling… how deep it was, how golden, how much LOVE there was, when the dolphins came and joined in, and many other special Beings / Angels, Masters.

Here is the chat (if you\’d like your name hidden, let me know – but don\’t forget, this is still private, and only visible by other Nutopians)

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Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: A very strong field
Sel O from Holland: hi Tom, Frank and Moshe and Arno and All, i feel it also the force
Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: It\’s all love
theo hooijer from voorthuizen: it is joyfull to experiance the field, the power to heal us and to heal the world, our heart connection!
dav from montreal: Hi every one. Moshe I thank you for taking time to get us all together. Peace and love DAV from Montreal
theo hooijer from voorthuizen: It really touches my heart and soul, thank you all!
Jorge Chavez from Toluca, Mexico: Incredible! no words can express this field
Howard H from southern cal: Moshe – that was a great innvocation…G and I have a clock that frozen on \”1\”…really powerful field…3rd eye way open
Frank Bonte from Netherlands: Thanks Moshe and Arno, thank you all sharing our love
John Wilkerson from florida usa: john wilkerson….my cell has very active bubbles, I feel euphoric
John Wilkerson from florida usa: it did today in a few minutes, what took hours of forgetting to remove the +in the past
theo hooijer from voorthuizen: did the sun start shining also at jour place? it did here!
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: Wonderful, Wonderful, Wonderful
Frans Brockman from Coevorden: Hi all, just start joecell with first stone. source have earth leak. feel the love
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: Imagine all the people…
Ron Pugh from Canada: Sound and video working fine, my thanks to Moshe and Arno for this wonderful exchange
Jorge Chavez from Toluca, Mexico: No words, only Joy, Joy and Joy
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: we should meet here, weekly, more and more friends from all over the world
Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: Thanks everyone..felt a lot of dirt disappeared from earth.
Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: Felt a kind of oneness
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: I will be with you , with your good fellings, day by day
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: All the time !
Sel O from Holland: Bea saw the God light shining around the Earth
Frank Bonte from Netherlands: Just before this meeeting, I was at a Cropcircle meeting, so many things are happening now. Simultaniously. Hopefull.
theo hooijer from voorthuizen: my bottle is full, i am signing out. THANK JOU ALL!
Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: Again a lot of love.This is what the world needs
theo hooijer from voorthuizen: thank you mother earh, thank you higher spirits, thank you all spirists of the word, thank you group!
Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: Feel connected with the dolphins.
Jorge Chavez from Toluca, Mexico: Thank you Moshe and Arno for inviting me, thank you everyone, Lots of Blessings and much love from Mexico
Frans Brockman from Coevorden: Amazing sunset, the spring water no words
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: Keep with you this connection forever !
Luc van der Lee from Netherlands: Thank You All
Dan Bertea from Gatineau: THANK YOU ALL
Howard H from southern cal: Moshe and Arno thank you, great job…T
Howard H from southern cal: Thank you everyone
Sel O from Holland: Thank you all
Pier Luigi from L: Beautyfull experience Thank you all
Moshe Daniel: Thank you everyone!!!!!!
Sel O from Holland: the time we stopped in holland is 20:12 hours, theank you to Moshe
Moshe Daniel: you\’re very welcome
Moshe Daniel: last minute goodbye everyone and thank you!!!
Moshe Daniel: molto grazie tutti. merci beaucoup. Danka

[Moshe Daniel]

Khalid Alamoudi wrote:

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I need help in the type of voltage and amps current required that I have to use to operate my newly received Moe-Joe cell.

Do I have to have certain gadgets to convert my home 110/220ACV to DC with amps required for the Moe-joe cell and what is your recommendation? Can you tell me the electronic gadgets you are using in operating it and the websites where I can buy them?

regards,
Khalid

Hi Khalid,
Good question.
Lately, I have been charging the water with a 12Volt battery. Sometimes, I use 2 – 12 Volt batteries in series, which makes 24 volts. The current remains low – around 50-100 mA. But the water still gets very charged. You will not see signs of \”Stage 3\” – which is, in my opinion, not necessary and it is only a sign of the water after using higher amperage.

If you want higher amperage, then yes, you can convert your AC from the wall into DC. this is more dangerous than the 12Volt battery, which is totally safe.

To convert AC to DC, you use a bridge rectifier, and a capacitor. In order to control the voltage, you need also a VARIAC.
Please go here, to the moe-joe-cell.com website to see the instructions on this setup –
Variac – AC-DC conversion

[Moshe Daniel]

Dear Eli,

It is most unfortunate that I cannot share with you exactly what the Chris circuit really is.
Chris was working on different versions of it, and we tried some of them and we burnt many transformers, but did get some amazing results. The results were in terms of how it felt. It felt incredible. But it wasn\’t stable – something strange was happening and then the transformers got very loud and then would begin smoking. So Chris was working on it, modifying it, and it was looking promising, but then Chris disappeared. Myself, Topher, my friend David… none of us can contact him.

If you want, I can post some of the old circuits we were trying previously, that didn\’t quite work, but yielded some powerful feeling of energy.

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey Moshe,

I made the improvement to the cell as you suggested.
I also changed the water and replaced it with new fresh one. Its all clear now and much beautiful.

Great Eli!

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Also noticed while cleaning that there were a lot of brownish residues on the spheres, and the the inner one that you said to be polished is covered with grayish material, I think it\’s from the electolysis, and all the spheres as well, does this affect the Orgone Charging process ?

If the cell gets too covered in this residue, as you called it, the grayish material, it will block electrolysis… however, it may be filled with ORMUS material and other special material that enhances orgone production. My friend Pepi from Croatia says not to wash it. I RARELY take my cell apart. In fact, when I do, I find it pretty much dies and goes back to the beginning. What I do instead is fill up the container and just rinse the cell and then dump it out – like 3-4 times, with fresh, clean water. this does bring you backward a little, but the cell still holds the field better this way.

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Also the uper bolts are totally covered with plastic now, but I noticed that when the bubbles comes out, the automatically attracted to the middle negative bolt, eventhough it is isolated now.

that\’s normal. the bubbles are charged negative and the +ve bolt is positive, so there\’s an attraction – even to the field itself.

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey Moshe,

Kindly find attached a zip file of 3 photos of my MOe joe setup.

Hi Eli,
I am embedding here two of the photos that show your setup, so others can follow along.
Your moe-joe cell water is beautiful!! you\’re doing a great job! I have a few suggestions for improvement.

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The colored piece is an Orgonite, with a Clear Quartz Crystal in the middle, and also surrounded by Clear Quartz with Mobius Coils in closed loop circuit each(What do you think about mobius coils and crystals around MOe Joe).

I love the mobius coils (Mobius is the name of my car. 🙂 – it\’s great. I love your setup.
You have great intention there. A beautiful clear and clean energy.

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Also I noticed that the Brownish color is very strong, could it be because initially I had the cell charge with a current higher than 1amp ? and I am sure I did it.

Also I guess my water should be more in quantity from the top of the cell ?? The stainless bolt will be totally immerged at that point, how can I do that without letting the metal of the contact Node dissolve because of the electrolysis ?

Ok, so here\’s a few suggestions –
First of all, you have to understand that using higher voltage and current, you are going to produce some brownish scum. You actually don\’t have that much scum – trust me – i\’ve had wayyy more than that. Your water is very alive. You have pretty highly charged water there. After a filtration, you are going to get even better results.

Something that I have noticed in your setup – the metal of the bismuth core is coming out of the top and it is exposed to water – you do not want to have ANY of the metal touching the water – this creates a HUGE disturbance in the electromagnetic field of the cell – imagine, you want to have ONLY the inner 2\” female sphere receiving the negative electricity in the water, but instead, you have a portion of threaded rod which is around 1\” away from the +ve anode – which is also exposed to the water.
So here\’s what you should do:
you must either shrink wrap the metal of the threaded rod from the bismuth core, or you can use the extra spacers, as I have done, to protect / insulate these anode and cathodes from each other.

Another thing which is important -only add the electricity to the negative sphere of the cell through the bottom of the glass container. this has always made an improvement for me.

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How could I charge the cell with a 12V source in terms of time and Sets per day .

You can really charge for long periods – like 2 hours or more at a time.
and you can charge more than one time / day.
IT\’s up to you.
Somedays, i charge many times. 10 minutes at a time, 6-10 times. other days, one time for 3 hours.
with 12 volts, you cannot really cook the water.

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Also the Bismuth core came with two stainless steel bolts and in the videos u posted it comes with one stainless and one plastic.

yes, i used to sell it with one nylon thread and two stainless bolts, but found that it is more sturdy and more solid with both stainless bolts. better for assembly.

good work! keep it up.

please share with us the difference you find once you make those improvements to your setup.

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