Moe-Joe Cell on generator singel or with wet-cell

[Moshe Daniel]

Alexander Notzon wrote:

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hallo,

sry for my broken english

Alexander, your broken English is much better than my broken German. I must thank you and everyone here on Nutopia, for speaking English now.
Until we remember the Universal language, we must use English here. Soon, there will be more translated pages… in other languages, and then we will all speak the universal language again.

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i try alex schiffer´s way with the mojoe cell because i have the german book from alex schiffer.

i have vinegar 90 % (more than water) but i come not to 12 volt 1 amp.
the best was 62 volt 1,7 amp only with a little bit magesium salt, the vinegar is no help.

I never ever use any electrolyte. this is really only for HHO or hydrogren production – it is not for generating the orgone.

I suggest you disassemble the cell, clean it, and then reassemble and use only pure water.
Or, you can rinse it out a few times without taking it apart. This is also an option.

Lately, I have also only been using low voltage. This is something that Arno and our friends from the Netherlands really recommend. Low voltage, low current.
Making big bubblees with a lot of voltage looks nice but it is not what we really want.
Alex Schiffer\’s idea of bubbles and stage 3 is only a theory, and with lower voltage you can get good results with the cell but not see the signs of stage 3.
It is not important.

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the threaded rod going out from the bismutcore, i have buy a threaded rod from the internet m5 v4a.

the small sphere is perhaps not conectet to the threaded rod?

this is a possibility.
Try to do the following \”fix\” which I have suggested in your package when you ordered the moe-joe cell:

\”There is an alternative method of assembly which provides a better, stronger electric connection between the stainless steel bolt bringing the –ve electricity and the outer surface of the 2” inner sphere, but this does require a little more preparation.

Take two of the Faddie spacers (big clear spacers as seen in #6 on page 2 of the Exploded View) and drill one side of them out (making the hole wider) with a ½” wood or plastic drill bit until the hole that is drilled is around ½ way through the length of the Faddie spacer.
Then instead of using the 4 round washers as seen in #3A on pg two and step #2 on page 3, use two of the stainless steel nuts as seen in #8 on page 2. You have been provided with four. Two for this alternative method to contact the 2” inner sphere and secure it and two also for the outside, to tighten the whole assembly on the outside of the 5” sphere when the Moe-Joe cell is fully assembled.\”

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without silicon is the cell leaky.

yes. the cell will leak water without silicon / goop.
I use goop even though silicon is a \”cleaner\” glue, bc silicon makes a mess and is impossible to clean up and goop, once it is dried, it leaves no residue when you pull it off.

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what acid did you take?

I never use any acid.

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my goal is it that work the generator with free energy.

edit: pics are to big, i have got to compress next time.

that is a good goal… that is also my goal too.

Your generator is better to be 4 stroke engine, water cooled, gas powered. Is it?

Air cooled engines are difficult to work with because the moe joe cells\’ energies are working through the medium of water.

Moshe

[Alexander Notzon]

no acid – no electrolyte, sorry this is not possible with my pure water (my water has 15 ppm) only the water are charched. it is spring water. (charging only with high voltage or not?)

bevore my first try i have the cell clean after polish (400 er ) with hcl 10%

i have got to clean again?

is this goop ok?

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you mean i have got to the second small sphere connect with the threaded rod? but the small sphere is well not more needed, or not?

what is the right water level? half full water, or comlete full water?

my generator is 4 stroke engine and he is air cooled (2,4 ps and 850 watt output). i know water cooled are better (but expensive) , but joe has all engines got to work with free energy.

your engine run´s not with free energy? you have your goal not arrived, thanks you for your truth.

i think alex schiffer are help you with the cell (are was this a translation error), and he have no engine for you converted?

O\’neill

[Moshe Daniel]

Alexander Notzon wrote:

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no acid – no electrolyte, sorry this is not possible with my pure water (my water has 15 ppm) only the water are charched. it is spring water. (charging only with high voltage or not?)

you don\’t need high voltage, nor high current.
if you use 12-24 volts, it\’s enough.
you will feel the water charging with time. you can let it charge much longer.

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bevore my first try i have the cell clean after polish (400 er ) with hcl 10%
i have got to clean again?

you don\’t have to take it apart, but rinse it out like 5-6 times, and then let it drip dry, and then fill it up again.

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is this goop ok?

YES! That is the right stuff.

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you mean i have got to the second small sphere connect with the threaded rod? but the small sphere is well not more needed, or not?

I don\’t understand the question. can you rephrase it?

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what is the right water level? half full water, or comlete full water?

complete FULL water level. if you are trying to charge water in your car cell, then when you charge, some of the water will fall over the top, but it\’s okay for a bit to escape.

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my generator is 4 stroke engine and he is air cooled (2,4 ps and 850 watt output). i know water cooled are better (but expensive) , but joe has all engines got to work with free energy.

That\’s what they say. I have never heard of an air-cooled engine running only with free energy.
maybe Joe can do it, but I not heard of anyone else doing it and no one really knows what Joe is doing.

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your engine run´s not with free energy? you have your goal not arrived, thanks you for your truth.

No, we have not yet run an engine with only free energy. We make better performance, better power of engine, better fuel mileage, but we have not run with free energy.

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i think alex schiffer are help you with the cell (are was this a translation error), and he have no engine for you converted?

I\’m sorry my friend. I also do not understand this question. Can you also rephrase the question?

lots of love,
Moshe

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