Water Color, Brownish residues and Filtering

[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey Guys.

I am starting to charge the Moe-joe, 4 to 6 times a day, using the VARIAC mehtod with 1amp current. M getting it at 51 Volts.
I noticed that my water is getting a dark green color.

Is that normal or should I start charging from the beginning ?
Also noticed those brownish residues starting to form in the water and the outer surface of the cell. What is the cause of that ?

Also I used a tissue bag that I had at home to filter, but m not sure if it is the kind recommended by MOshe ( Blue Shop towel). What is the recommended kind of towel to use so I can get in my country ?

Also while charging I notice that the bubbles as soon as they form I immediately attracted to the Negative pole.

I am also keeping the cell closed while putting the electricity on it as well as while its left alone. Is there any danger to have an explosion because Oxygene and hydrogen gas are released ??

How many days it takes usually to reach a stage 3 cell ? And till now I still have a Zero voltage residue , and I have been charging for three days

Much Love !

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey Guys.

I am starting to charge the Moe-joe, 4 to 6 times a day, using the VARIAC mehtod with 1amp current. M getting it at 51 Volts.
I noticed that my water is getting a dark green color.
Is that normal or should I start charging from the beginning?

Hi Eli,

That\’s great that you\’ve begun charging.
I am so happy.
Do you feel the energy of the cell?
What would you describe it as?

About the greenish colour, that is often normal.
Depending on what quality your water is in, you\’ll get different colours. A yellow-green colour is to be expected when charging because it is a building up concentration of nickel and iron. The more of this stuff you get into the water, the more toxic the water is, the less you should drink of it. But you can still use a few drops of it and then vortex it in with other fresh water.

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Also noticed those brownish residues starting to form in the water and the outer surface of the cell. What is the cause of that ?

it can be from gunk in the water, or from charging at higher voltages and probably iron oxide, or a lot of iron. It comes from the metal – it is natural part of electrolysis – the higher the voltage and amperage, the more of this stuff you\’ll get. Lately, I\’ve been charging much lower voltages and current. around 12V and less than 100mA – this allows me to charge for longer. i get very very little change of water colour and no brown scum.

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Also I used a tissue bag that I had at home to filter, but m not sure if it is the kind recommended by MOshe ( Blue Shop towel). What is the recommended kind of towel to use so I can get in my country?

I recommend a thick blue shop towel. 🙂 :laugh:
But you can try to use coffee filters – wet them first with other water, or you\’ll lose a lot of water being absorbed. If you have very thick, tough paper towels, that may work too. After doing the filtering of the water, the water will diminish in orgone content a lot – but once cleaned, it can be charged up even better than better.

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Also while charging I notice that the bubbles as soon as they form I immediately attracted to the Negative pole.

I am also keeping the cell closed while putting the electricity on it as well as while its left alone. Is there any danger to have an explosion because Oxygene and hydrogen gas are released ??

it depends on how air tight it is, and how strong the vessel is in. But the answer is YES, there is a risk of explosion if the vessel is very strongly sealed to air.

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How many days it takes usually to reach a stage 3 cell ?

it usually takes me a few days, and at least one filtering of the water.

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And till now I still have a Zero voltage residue , and I have been charging for three days

can you send us a picture of your setup Eli?
Maybe there is something I can suggest.

Moshe

[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey Moshe,

Kindly find attached a zip file of 3 photos of my MOe joe setup.

The colored piece is an Orgonite, with a Clear Quartz Crystal in the middle, and also surrounded by Clear Quartz with Mobius Coils in closed loop circuit each(What do you think about mobius coils and crystals around MOe Joe).

Also I noticed that the Brownish color is very strong, could it be because initially I had the cell charge with a current higher than 1amp ? and I am sure I did it.

How could I charge the cell with a 12V source in terms of time and Sets per day .

Also the Bismuth core came with two stainless steel bolts and in the videos u posted it comes with one stainless and one plastic.

Also I guess my water should be more in quantity from the top of the cell ?? The stainless bolt will be totally immerged at that point, how can I do that without letting the metal of the contact Node dissolve because of the electrolysis ?

Thank you Bro 🙂

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey Moshe,

Kindly find attached a zip file of 3 photos of my MOe joe setup.

Hi Eli,
I am embedding here two of the photos that show your setup, so others can follow along.
Your moe-joe cell water is beautiful!! you\’re doing a great job! I have a few suggestions for improvement.

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The colored piece is an Orgonite, with a Clear Quartz Crystal in the middle, and also surrounded by Clear Quartz with Mobius Coils in closed loop circuit each(What do you think about mobius coils and crystals around MOe Joe).

I love the mobius coils (Mobius is the name of my car. 🙂 – it\’s great. I love your setup.
You have great intention there. A beautiful clear and clean energy.

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Also I noticed that the Brownish color is very strong, could it be because initially I had the cell charge with a current higher than 1amp ? and I am sure I did it.

Also I guess my water should be more in quantity from the top of the cell ?? The stainless bolt will be totally immerged at that point, how can I do that without letting the metal of the contact Node dissolve because of the electrolysis ?

Ok, so here\’s a few suggestions –
First of all, you have to understand that using higher voltage and current, you are going to produce some brownish scum. You actually don\’t have that much scum – trust me – i\’ve had wayyy more than that. Your water is very alive. You have pretty highly charged water there. After a filtration, you are going to get even better results.

Something that I have noticed in your setup – the metal of the bismuth core is coming out of the top and it is exposed to water – you do not want to have ANY of the metal touching the water – this creates a HUGE disturbance in the electromagnetic field of the cell – imagine, you want to have ONLY the inner 2\” female sphere receiving the negative electricity in the water, but instead, you have a portion of threaded rod which is around 1\” away from the +ve anode – which is also exposed to the water.
So here\’s what you should do:
you must either shrink wrap the metal of the threaded rod from the bismuth core, or you can use the extra spacers, as I have done, to protect / insulate these anode and cathodes from each other.

Another thing which is important -only add the electricity to the negative sphere of the cell through the bottom of the glass container. this has always made an improvement for me.

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How could I charge the cell with a 12V source in terms of time and Sets per day .

You can really charge for long periods – like 2 hours or more at a time.
and you can charge more than one time / day.
IT\’s up to you.
Somedays, i charge many times. 10 minutes at a time, 6-10 times. other days, one time for 3 hours.
with 12 volts, you cannot really cook the water.

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Also the Bismuth core came with two stainless steel bolts and in the videos u posted it comes with one stainless and one plastic.

yes, i used to sell it with one nylon thread and two stainless bolts, but found that it is more sturdy and more solid with both stainless bolts. better for assembly.

good work! keep it up.

please share with us the difference you find once you make those improvements to your setup.

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[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey Moshe,

So happy to hear your feedback.
And amazed by how you could sense my intentions and the energy around my cell, your talented Bro.

I\’ll make sure your suggestions are done today,
and will report ASAP about the results !

Through your own experience with MObius coils and your car Mobius lol, how there presence around a crystal affect the orgone emission of the crystal ??

And have been thinking about something, if I download my crsytal with a certain program or thought form, and excite the mobius coil with a certain frequency (eg. 528hz) will that help to emit an orgone energy that carries my intentions and transmit to the target that will absorb the Orgone ?

[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey Moshe,

I made the improvement to the cell as you suggested.
I also changed the water and replaced it with new fresh one. Its all clear now and much beautiful.

Also noticed while cleaning that there were a lot of brownish residues on the spheres, and the the inner one that you said to be polished is covered with grayish material, I think it\’s from the electolysis, and all the spheres as well, does this affect the Orgone Charging process ?

Also the uper bolts are totally covered with plastic now, but I noticed that when the bubbles comes out, the automatically attracted to the middle negative bolt, eventhough it is isolated now.

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[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey Moshe,

I made the improvement to the cell as you suggested.
I also changed the water and replaced it with new fresh one. Its all clear now and much beautiful.

Great Eli!

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Also noticed while cleaning that there were a lot of brownish residues on the spheres, and the the inner one that you said to be polished is covered with grayish material, I think it\’s from the electolysis, and all the spheres as well, does this affect the Orgone Charging process ?

If the cell gets too covered in this residue, as you called it, the grayish material, it will block electrolysis… however, it may be filled with ORMUS material and other special material that enhances orgone production. My friend Pepi from Croatia says not to wash it. I RARELY take my cell apart. In fact, when I do, I find it pretty much dies and goes back to the beginning. What I do instead is fill up the container and just rinse the cell and then dump it out – like 3-4 times, with fresh, clean water. this does bring you backward a little, but the cell still holds the field better this way.

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Also the uper bolts are totally covered with plastic now, but I noticed that when the bubbles comes out, the automatically attracted to the middle negative bolt, eventhough it is isolated now.

that\’s normal. the bubbles are charged negative and the +ve bolt is positive, so there\’s an attraction – even to the field itself.