Joachim Boettger
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Joachim Boettger
MemberMay 27, 2012 at 10:59 pm in reply to: Moshe\’s Amazing Water Charging VortexerGreetings,
I built my first vortexer with the wine decanter as the master form….since it was a protoptype I focussed on experimenting. I took a normal wine decanter size and had two pumps to chhose from…one AC powered 400l/h mini pump, one similar 12Volt DC mini pump. I took a wine decanter and the proper drying stand and put it in a nice glas reservoir where the pump was fixed to the drying stand of the decanter. I filled the reservoir with raw gems for additional water energizing(astrologically chosen), at the most tapered point of the \”up-side down wine decanter\” I installed a little ring of neodym-magnet-balls coated with silver and gold formed to a ring for additional energizing in the eye of the vortex.
Results: The normal wine decanter size 0,75 or 1,0 L is much too big for a decent selfsustaining vortex…or to put it different, the 400l/h – 600l/h pumps are much too small for this decanter size….although I opened the decanter at the point with the biggest radius and shot in the water in the tangential way to maximize the effect, the water just followed the form, beautifully driven and curling, but not like a vortex I used to evoke with the simple devajal bottle energizers.
I did not like the AC pump either, since EMF of AC is more disturbing for the water than DC, so I took the DC Pump.
Though better in performance and taste it was still not enough to evoke a selfsustaining vortex and the water was not nearly as tasty as my \”reference\” water from my aquadea(TM) shower energizer (which I find much too expensive like all the products of these water firms—On the one hand they want this technique to be widespread, on the other hand their pricing is like injury award for all the suffering of the water scientists and the indignities they had to face eversince) Devajal has the cheapetst manual vortexer for bottles and http://www.wellnesswirbler.de has some reasonably priced for the watertap,which one can enhance by galvanizing the brass made cores with precious metals of one\’s choice)
I rebuilt the Devajal manual bottle energizer from waste bottle tops for some kids to make their eyes shine…if it is not open source or can be made of waste,then it is not worth copying, since this techniques are for all humans,especially the underprivileged in the robbed areas of this world to provide a physical method of cleaning chemically spoiled or unpure water since the Chemicals can stay in the water and will be deactivated to harmless ingredients as long as their information connection with the water is broken in the middle of the vortex(the eye of the water-storm) by the unlimited speed in its very centre)Back:
My decanter-vortexer prototype was constructed from glas and stainless steel, so the water never touched any petrochemical products, but the results did not match my expectations. (A tap was built in too to get some water out of the circulation,too-great idea,Moshe)I think the ongoing discussion solved 1/2 of the issue for me, since I also came to the conclusion that it had to be the explosion pressure using pump which took away some potential charging,as much as the correct pump or decanter sizing….which has to fit the logarythmic scaling of the universal vortexes and torusses.
Since the first one I built was not only prototype but also a gimmick/birthday present for a friend of mine and I was so glad to finally having completed it, I forgot to take some pictures but went straight on to the birthday party…
So I am building the second one this evening, and I am very grateful,thanking all participants of this discussion and the great ideas of constructing pumps with archimedes screws and this RAM pump Mr. Gardner posted.
My initial idea of using these little DC pumps was to exchange the built in motor with a bedini motor, and give two batteries and a switching device to it, so the vortexer would run with a Bedini motor pump,(zero-point-switching) and run at least 10 years with the two alternating batteries,one discharged,one charged at the same time,a switching circuit beetween them, making it a perpetuum mobile,energizing water.
The original wine-vortexer was planned that way, I just wanted to give a black box some weeks after the party to my friend,to provide power and a modified pump and let him wonder where to plug it in….for 10 years(lol).
But I guess a RAM pump and a second bigger reservoir above the wine decanter level will be favoured by me now ,downsizing the whole construction to a wine decanter of 0,25 L could be helpful, too…or choose a complete other form….even a cut glas water bottle will do the job,cause I identified the same Bedini like switching in the RAM pumps,the Bedini Chargers you build on your own or can order from renaissance charge do have the same clicking sound…. not water the medium, but charged particles…(though one can argue that water H2O/OH-/H3O+ molecules) consists of always charged particles as well.Since I charge all my batteries with Bedini technique and I am familiar with the science behind it, I can tell You the RAM pump does exactly the same with a water current,what the SSG-Circuit and a bedini motor does with an electron current….
It shakes the universal tree, turns away and the universe comes back with an overwhelming powerful answer to the initial shaking.
Or expressed physically: Induce some Resonance with some interacting universal processes/particles,lightning fast you lead/switch the mightfull answer of the universe/advaita to this induction to a different destination/reservoir/capacitor/battery and thus You are tapping the universal energy to gain overunity.
Or psycologigally:
Turn to the universe with a wish of yours, deepfully rethink your wish,letting it go,truthfully searching for a different solution,start to take the longer way ,without the shortcut the wish offered….this you can call the sucking kiss of yours,followed by a moment of rational decision that You do not need what you where willing to suck in with your kiss….but then \”the empire strikes back\”….the universe answers your humble sucking kiss by flooding you with a soaking wave of love,whichs plenty you never had expected in the first place,leaving you overwhelmed and grateful by its plenty and lordliness and creativity. Most of us are ued to use pressure to gain their goals and fail,we have to learn to conduct suction in humbleness.
That is all You need to know….that\’s the whole secret,build machines that work like that,repair/modify the old ones to mirror this new principle and work on your own consciousness and ability to re-/build your own universe by wishing and receiving-without-expecting from the universe. I try this as well in the moment,cause all is new to me,too. I found the god of my universe is the god of small things and I love him and feel deeply loved and assured.
If you feel comfortable and you have gotten familiar with this new consciousness,then live it,being an example for your family,loved ones, friends and strangers….prosper,thrive…be suction yourself,I failed to messianically change my friends and loved ones,because I was pressing.
When I realized that and I stopped pressing all got easier.
Letting my environment more room to explore what is going on with me and recognition of the change opened opportunity: maybe some ideas could be useful in their own lifes…(they want choice,like everyone,like the universe has offered eversince)
We have nothing to fear.
To choose for one\’s life to overcome the mind of scarcity and say hello to plenty,saying good-bye to the old dying system with respect and appreciation for the darkness it has conducted to make it easier for us to find the light again to re-balance our world.
Let us not \”rage against the machine\”, but show respect to it,since it developed the most natural way -all of it- though seeming futile,like vanity and misanthropic.It is the only \”planet of choice\”(Thx Moshe),so to bring as many souls as possible to the tipping point it is useful and reasonable to conduct darkness and fear…to create global imbalance…to create balance again, to create imbalance on the other side again in a far away future…breathing,wonderfully uplifting,admirable universe.
Our immortal souls if manifested in the dualistic world sense the wiseness behind it all,though our rational thinking blocks a lot,we feel it is all full of wonders,it is our wonderful home,our basement,where we all come from,are fed from and now it lets us choose to be lifted…so let\’s start choosing.
All the best.
Joachim
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I just try my very best to give something back to Nutopia, since it has already given so much to me.
I have further learned something about Joe-Cells how to condition them, so they produce more hydrogen,while consuming less Amperes…
I will soon tell you, but I have to verify the whole stuff first. I do not have built one on my own, recognizing the superior moshe-Daniel-spherical design but I found some people who made some very interesting conditioning on tubular designs, whicht provide a acidal coating on the one polarity of the electrodes(dense and white and insulating) . The Amps are massively reduced,but the hydrogen production is kept on very good level if not enhanced.
Maybe some Nutopians could help,providing cells and experiment time.
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Joachim Boettger
MemberMarch 31, 2012 at 3:39 pm in reply to: Moshe\’s Amazing Water Charging Vortexeri just played with the screenshot and rotated it in a simple graphic-program…since the function is based on
x.y=1 it is complete symmetrical.
look for a glas structure that looks like this.
since glass is the most indifferent material it is highly preferable against others for drinking water.
One would have to look if copper, a favoured material of schauberger in the agricultural technology of his ,is even more useful. I would use it for building a vortex-energizer where the water is used in the garden and for plants, since it is the earth metal, as I learned from Moshe\’s alchmemic wisdom.
Schauberger and others used plows made of copper and garden tools made of copper which is said to have the most positive effect on growth. -
Joachim Boettger
MemberMarch 31, 2012 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Moshe\’s Amazing Water Charging Vortexer -
Joachim Boettger
MemberMarch 31, 2012 at 2:43 pm in reply to: Moshe\’s Amazing Water Charging VortexerGreat,great,
let me suggest implementing the ultimate \”Schauberger Trichter\” Design which can be viewed here.
I found that \”wine decanters\” are made of glass and often provide just the form of the hyperbolic asymptote that Schauberger favoured for vortex constructions.
Using a wine decanter and cutting off its bottom might create a even more energizing vortex.
God bless you.
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Hello Svea, that is right, if everybody offers something in his/her field, the field where the skills grow almost automatically, where his/her soul is comfortable in through many incarnations and not being forced to work in, because of systemic necessities.
There would be a great variety of all needed abilities, which make small communities able to survive on their own, needing only to pay for material, produced by others/other communities.An exponentially growing money system like ours which is driven by the compound interest that makes its basement can only survive on a longer term by generating growth constantly,thus building up exponentially growing energy hunger,man-eating and health consuming hunger.
But at a certain point of time the system gets instable, since the growth cannot be upheld to the level the exponentially growing debt can grow.
Ancient civilisations and creeds had this experience long ago. A compound interest system, which is useful to help keep money rotating and floating would always soon end up with the wealth accumulated in the hands of a few, and the majority loaded with debt. So if the ancient people chose a compund interest system, they would establish a cycle of i.e. seven years, where all debt got annulated and the system was reset.
Since the system we live in nowadays has been made globally accepted and it includes all world markets the point for this reset could be prolongued to the future.
But it really seems that it will inevetibly go the way of all compound interest systems without an implemented debt reset. It resets itself,folllowing the uiversal law of dealing with exponentially growing systems.
This we have to be prepared for, we have to have a new vision in the cupboard to pull out.Democracy is nowadays translated with the people who are in charge, whole nations,states,big big institutions, which ask their inhabitants in big events who should play the political theatre. This is all wrong and so much away from the democracies of the ancient greeks,its inventors.
They tell us \”demo\” in democracy means \”the people\” which is all wrong since the meaning of the greek word demos would mean the area of a small town or city.This is democracy about, the greeks knew too well that if systems get too big, they tend to be abused by a few,since the control gets lost.
The ancient greek democracies have thus been only democracies established in their towns,which formed autarc states which cannot be compared to the megacities of our times.
A few sociologists who research group dynamics developed the idea, that systems of a few people work best and most stable, since nobody can hide, or do less than the average, since it would not take too long for the black sheeps to be identified,which gets harder the bigger groups get.
They brought up the theory that even Jesus and his disciples represent an example of how small groups tend too break up if bigger than 11…
I stumbled across this idea and mentioned it here and put a smilie behind it because it is no law and no teaching of Jesus, but moreover a conclusion one could derive from the biblic history of Jesus.Sincerely Yours
Joachim
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Hello again, I was busy selling our property,since we have moved to a neighbour town and had no spare-time for nutopia, but i\’ve done a little research on free energy devices which will be fruitful for the interested nutopian, which i will soon post after having achieved the first successes….
For the time being I made a small donation, to help sponsoring the meeting with the development team.
A good friend of mine is a webdesigner living in San Francisco, maybe I can sparkle some moneyless efforts on his behalf to help developing some source code for this site, since we have to try to overcome the bondages of the fiat money sytem at first for ourselves and our goals.
I eagerly try to build a local all-providing system, gathering people and friends who will work 1 hour for an hour for each other, thus taking the energy out of the system which feeds a lot of suckers who do not provide anything useful to the society, but get everything.
An ordinary worker has to work 8 hours for being able to pay 1 hour of another worker with different abilities…which means there is a direct/indirect tax rate of over 80% on work feeding all the parasites.To change the system, we have got to reduce this direct/indirect taxation by forming local groups of up to 11 persons(Jesus taught us that problems increase with more than 11 ;-)) with different abilities who treat each other like family-members,where no money gets exchanged but efforts,physical like repairing a Computer or non-physical like giving each other protection and the feeling of being loved without a dollar exchanged.
I call this the \”mml\”-system which stands for \”manus manum lavat\” which is latin for : One hand washes the other.
So take care and thanks to all the good ideas which where written down,while I was absent.
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That is right and I see clearer now.
In the age of 17/18 I was really fancied by the idea of Stephen Hawking of \”finding the world formula\” but in the age of 19 it came to me the conclusion by something happening to me, that he was all wrong, and God would never let himself be described in a mathematical way, a formula,an algorithm,how mathematically beautiful it would ever be.It came to me that this was complete non-sense because I felt it was wrong, I was convinced that God could only be felt completely with the heart,that man could only feel \”one\” with the creator by an methaphysical experience. This has not changed since then.
But I was only able to overcome my ratio,my strong mind, to feel these complete oneness with the creator,the harmony,the warmth and benevolence like a mild though powerful light shining right in the middle of my conciousness only by literally losing my ratio/my mind. This occured twice and they brought me to hospital to cure it with psychopharmaka. It was not drug inflicted but moreover by the deep sruggles in my family beetween my mother and my father,a struggle of which I always felt responsible for to calm it.
So ratio and emotion got totally out of balance during these phases.
It was right and this was the way to follow and I am thankful that they were able to put my mind back in a status,where I was able again to master the life in this dualistic world, but I am also very thankful that I lost my mind,since I was able to experience this feeling that nothing bad happened with me by this two seizures of mental illness,because I was able to see and feel the light and it told me to have no fear. And I was without fear, though at the maximum of my vulnerability.I think I became a lot more balanced since then,letting my ratio not be shut down so drastically to experience this feeling,willing to open up more towards feeling.
Maybe I should try to medidate,to listen to my heart more closely,so it does not need to violently break through by mental seizures.
I only use to calm myself sometimes by mentally speaking\”om\” before falling asleep,which I took from the book \”Siddhartha\”by Hermann Hesse.
I would like to learn how this is done properly.I will give more details of the whole story,if someone wishes me to, but I will stop here,since it is off topic.
I would once again like to thank You,Moshe that You revealed,that this struggle of mother and father force was always there written in my zodiac,and I welcome the next experiences my fate or I myself will bring up for me in that respect or others of my chart.
I now understand also why You proposed to change my gender to \”male-female-working on the balance\”…At first I had mistaken it for a description of sexual orientation, but now I realized that it is nothing like that but gender represents much more, how far the balance of male female is present in once personal soul-journey…
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At first,I would like to thank You deeply for Your efforts for my birth chart and knowledge that You share with me.
It is somehow unbelievable,how the things that You mention play such major roles in my journey of life until now.
The language of the zodiac seems so universal and detailed simultanously,so open and so exact at the same time.
Thank You very much for sharing this with me,which is very helpful,since I found me mirrored so much.
Everything you say is very clear and speaks a lot to me,except the last challenge,which is about reaching the \”moon oppsite to my scorpio energies…\” so I guess that\’s where \”I\’m at\” at he moment,where my blind spot is….
What is associated with the moon in general?, what should I recognize or search for to reveal what\’s behind \”the moon in the opposite place where it belongs\”
my moon is in capricorn,unemotional place you write….Shall I \”switch off my brain and be happy\”?…does it mean,my emotions are somehow suppressed by too much thinking,but the emotions provide the key to solve the Grand Kite Riddle?
Thank You
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Hello everyone,
I would like to introduce myself to all nutopians.
My name is Joachim and I found nutopia on a search through the internet being fancied by joe-cells,water-cars,Viktor Schauberger and other sources of renewed and all-new knowledge.
I am coming from a very scientific viewpoint of the universe \”thanks\” to my education and being pointed to the \”advaita\”(the non duality) among others by a Professor of quantum-physics,a scientific authority,who once worked with Werner Heisenberg and came to my hometown to hold a sparkling speech which I attended recently: Prof. Dr. Hans Peter Dürr.
He made all the way from the young guy,who went into atom physics to learn,what binds the world in its core, explored,calculated and reflected it all through and ended up as Master of quantum-physics,who would answer when asked: What is it that binds the world in its innermost,what is it that we are all come from: \”It is love!!!\”All materia,all energy is a condensed form of this love(which is the non duality) in duality,but not being materialistically permanent or condensed in a solid way but being processes…(this is a translation in my own words of the thoughts,that I got in touch with long ago and which were reborn,when I talked to Peter Dürr that evening)
In the german language we have two words for the english word \”reality\”, one is \”Realität\” and the other is \”Wirklichkeit\”.
As \”real\” comes from latin \”res\”(thing)and describes the perception of the world as a mixture of objects and implicitely their relations, the german word \”Wirklichkeit\” comes from the word \”wirken\”,which means as much as: to act,to be at work (forces)….and thus is a description of active processes taking place,which build the world that surrounds us and of which ourselves consist.
This is what he wanted to tell the people about:
We are renewed in every second,all the atoms and energy that build our bodies,our souls\’ homes in duality,the atoms and molecules,we are made of,follow a path of potential future behaviour(non-determined) in this permanent renewal, and the fascinating thing about it is that we have a certain influence with our consciousness about the direction it happens.We need a new way of looking at the world.
Thinking in the old scientific patterns will not provide the much needed solutions for man\’s problems.This fancied me so much,that I began my journey to learn more about themes like healing,free energy,new forms of social behaviour based on advanced wisdom andfinally found nutopia.cc.
And now I\’m here introducing myself to you, thinking by myself: \”A brief \”hello\” would have done the job also,old windbag 😉
Cheers


