My joe cell

[Peter Smith]

Thanks Moshe

So. If I understood good.
Our aim is have the same rezonans beetwen 1 – st and 2 – nd and 2 – nd and 3 – rd and 3 and 4
So we should have first and second diameters – the best is to have 2x bigger second diameter) and after that we calculate 3rd and 4th dianameter
Why you think that relation 2X is the best
Why we should take c7? Not c3 or c 5 or c 2…

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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Thanks Moshe

So. If I understood good.
Our aim is have the same rezonans beetwen 1 – st and 2 – nd and 2 – nd and 3 – rd and 3 and 4

and remember, good resonance is not only the octave,
but also the major 3rd, major 5th and some say, 4th, although, i would probably NOT do 4th.

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So we should have first and second diameters – the best is to have 2x bigger second diameter) and after that we calculate 3rd and 4th dianameter

yes. this is it!!

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Why you think that relation 2X is the best

because it creates the OCTAVE, which is the same note, but on a higher or lower level – these resonate very well together.

so 30, 60, 120 – these are all OCTAVES of each other.

now, you are just missing the 3rd one, which will make the spaces between the 2nd 3rd and 4th unequal –
but, i think this is okay.

another option, and it is probably the better way to create a moe-joe cell, is to have only THREE spheres.

the root – the 2nd – the third.
the third will be 2X the root.
the 2nd will be somewhere close to the halfway size, but not quite, to give the harmony there.

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Why we should take c7? Not c3 or c 5 or c2…

it is only because c7 has a higher frequency, and since we are dividing by a big number, for the volume of the larger sphere, i used a higher frequency.
you could use c200 c 5000 or c5, it doesn\’t make a difference bc they\’re all the same NOTE, harmony of octaves.

let me know what you find for your 3rd sphere.
or… if you choose to go with just 3 spheres…
even better, in my opinion.

[Peter Smith]

So

It means that if I want to collect orgon efficiency it should be effect tremor. Of course the highest tremor is on the sphere with the smallest diameter, so the next sphere has smaller frequency tremor and the best effect is when different frequency between one and next diameter is about whole octave or multiple octave.

We take C7 only of this reason that it will be easer to calculate next diameter.

yes?

If any body check the rule for cell with normal cylinders?

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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So

It means that if I want to collect orgon efficiency it should be effect tremor. Of course the highest tremor is on the sphere with the smallest diameter, so the next sphere has smaller frequency tremor and the best effect is when different frequency between one and next diameter is about whole octave or multiple octave.

not exactly. just because it is a lower frequency, it does not mean it is less in energy, or resonance, do you understand?
the smallest sphere sets the \”root\” note… the baseline note, and because it is the smallest, it is the highest frequency, not resonance, just higher frequency.

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We take C7 only of this reason that it will be easer to calculate next diameter.

yes?

yes. you can use c10, c12, also… to make easier calculations.

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If any body check the rule for cell with normal cylinders?

i have checked it later when I began to get really into creating a resonating moe-joe cell.
in order to get custom sizes costs $10,000 ++ for the molds / dies. i will do this in the future.

[Peter Smith]

I ask about this – if cell is tremoring (like string in gitar) it helps in collecting orgone?

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i have checked it later when I began to get really into creating a resonating moe-joe cell.
in order to get custom sizes costs $10,000 ++ for the molds / dies. i will do this in the future. –

So it is mean that when you try to get this effect (tremoring) in \”cylinder\” cell it costs more than $10 000

In previous message you (Moshe)suggested that it is good idea to bulit 3 sphere cell? yes? Should it works so good like 4 sphere cell

Happy Christmas for everyone

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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I ask about this – if cell is tremoring (like string in gitar) it helps in collecting orgone?

good question.
i guess you could say so, although i don\’t think that is actually what the resonating spheres will do.
it is creating a harmony to open up the zero point field so that more \”ether\” or i guess you can also say \”orgone\” can flow through. i see the resonance as being important for balance.

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i have checked it later when I began to get really into creating a resonating moe-joe cell.
in order to get custom sizes costs $10,000 ++ for the molds / dies. i will do this in the future. –

So it is mean that when you try to get this effect (tremoring) in \”cylinder\” cell it costs more than $10 000

no. it means that in order to create exact custom sizes, it costs $10,000 / size.

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In previous message you (Moshe)suggested that it is good idea to bulit 3 sphere cell? yes? Should it works so good like 4 sphere cell

it is a good question and requires proper investigation, but my feeling is that the 3 sphere moe-joe cell is the best, and is even better than the 4 sphere moeo-joe cell.

more research needs to be done to be sure.

Imagine is Now!
Moshe

Happy Christmas for everyone[/quote]

[Peter Smith]

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i guess you could say so, although i don\’t think that is actually what the resonating spheres will do.
it is creating a harmony to open up the zero point field so that more \”ether\” or i guess you can also say \”orgone\” can flow through. i see the resonance as being important for balance.

What is another elements of balance except of tenders? Do you have any idea (voltage, water, material – steel…)

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no. it means that in order to create exact custom sizes, it costs $10,000 / size.

Why the cost is so high – it is cost of stemp (in my country new stemp cost about $ 200), what is the reason so high reason

Another question – did you have any information about Bill Williams. I read that he start his truck – Ford on cell i 2006 IV and after that he has (problably) visit MIB – \”man in black\” – But the most important is this that he found the way which is working. He use normal cylinders (not spheres) cell

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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What is another elements of balance except of tenders? Do you have any idea (voltage, water, material – steel…)

Peter, I am not sure I understand what you mean by tenders?

voltage, water, material, yes, these all have roles to play, for sure. and it is important to have them correctly.

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Why the cost is so high – it is cost of stemp (in my country new stemp cost about $ 200), what is the reason so high reason

it\’s a good question. it is a precision machine, i suppose that is the reason. they must cut a mold / die with very high precision. if you can make mold /die for $200 that is excellent.

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Another question – did you have any information about Bill Williams. I read that he start his truck – Ford on cell i 2006 IV and after that he has (problably) visit MIB – \”man in black\” – But the most important is this that he found the way which is working. He use normal cylinders (not spheres) cell

that is the same i heard about Bill Williams.
His truck that he had running the joe cell was very unstable. but it was strong enough to run his truck for a short period without any fuel. he had success, but he, like many other joe-cellers, could not control it.
the joe cell seems to be unstable in this fashion and some believe it is because of the \”chaos\” field that the cell is tapping into to get its power. so the very energy of Chaos that helps to run the cell cannot be controlled for any long period of time.

[Peter Smith]

Hi

I calculate dianameter and dimations will be

25 mm
40 mm
163 mm

Ratio 0,244

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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Hi

I calculate dianameter and dimations will be

25 mm
40 mm
163 mm

Ratio 0,244

Ok Peter. so you are beginning with 25mm, which is 2.5 cm, which is 0.98425inches, which is wayyyy too small, in my opinion. I think the minimal size you want is 1.5\” or 38mm.

then from there, did you check the resonance?

assuming that the 25mm is the \”base note\” then the 40 mm sphere would be the following…

For the 25 mm V = 0.49925 in3
For the 40 mm V = 2.04493 in3
4.096004006009014 times the volume –
So a frequency 4X lower.
If we use C7 2093.00 Hz then 510.99 Hz for the 40mm sphere.
B4 493.88 69.9 C5 523.25 65.9 C#5/Db5 554.37 62.2
So it is between a B and a C note –
It is 97.65615448939571 % close to the root note. This is not too bad, but it is not great.
Now for the 163 mm sphere – the volume is V = 138.37501c3 which is 277.165774661993 times more.
R’ = 3.208655”
C11 (for calculation purposes) – 33488.08 Hz / 277.166
= 120.8235747850158 Hz
A#2/Bb2 116.54 296.
B2 123.47 279.
This note is between a Flat 7th and a 7th note – it is not very good.
C3 130.81 it is 92.36570199909471% close to resonance with the C octave.
This is not resonance.

[Peter Smith]

So
Then I start from 35 mm

r1 = 17,5 mm v1 = 22, 4493 cm3
r2 = 22 mm V2 = 44,6022 cm3
r3 = 28 mm v3 = 91,95232 cm 3

Ratio1 (v1/v2) = 0,5033227
Rario2 (v3/v2) = 0,48505

so
c7 2093 next 1053 (near c6 1046) and 507 (near 523)

What do you thing Moshe it should be good?

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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So
Then I start from 35 mm

r1 = 17,5 mm v1 = 22, 4493 cm3
r2 = 22 mm V2 = 44,6022 cm3
r3 = 28 mm v3 = 91,95232 cm 3

Ratio1 (v1/v2) = 0,5033227
Rario2 (v3/v2) = 0,48505

so
c7 2093 next 1053 (near c6 1046) and 507 (near 523)

What do you thing Moshe it should be good?

So Peter, the three sizes of your moe-joe cell are:
\”35 mm, 44 mm and 56 mm\” is that right?

you have to also test the ratio between the Root, the first, 35mm sphere, and the outer sphere is also important.
so you have 91,95232 & 22,4493 – ratio is 0.24414
So the note relationship would be 0
C7 2093 for root and 510.9864 Hz which is close to C5 523.25

closeness there is 97.6563% – not too bad. i think you have it there.
if you made the third one a little smaller, it may be better.
like try 55 or 54 mm.

Moshe

[Peter Smith]

So
You calculate ratio between 1 – st and 3 – rd sphere.

What about charging water. A dont want built special cylinders for preparing water. I would like prepare water in this (above) cell (sphere).

The question is
the water level shoul be above 2-nd shpere (of course after assemble)?

[Moshe Daniel]

Peter smith wrote:

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So
You calculate ratio between 1 – st and 3 – rd sphere.

you calculate ratio between 1st and 2nd, between 1st and 3rd, and between 2nd and 3rd.

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What about charging water. A dont want built special cylinders for preparing water. I would like prepare water in this (above) cell (sphere).

the cell that goes into the car has to have very little holes so that the water doesn\’t leak out. But for this reason, it doesn\’t make it quite as good for charging the water… but yes, you can still use it to charge the water.

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The question is
the water level shoul be above 2-nd shpere (of course after assemble)?

i fill the cell almost right up. If you begin charging and making lots of bubbles, some water might flow outside the cell, but that is okay. you\’ll find the right level.

Imagine is Now!
Moshe