Bedini Solid State Circuit

[Elianodi Eliano]

Hello daniel,

Hope you\’re doing great.

I built myself a Solid state bedini charger, very simple, according to this schematic.
It\’s very simple, and it works.

Can you give some advices on it in terms of :
1- Period of charging.
2- Scum filtering
3- What to look for.
4- the difference with a normal DC charging.

Thanks Bro,
Elie

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hello daniel,

Hope you\’re doing great.
I built myself a Solid state bedini charger, very simple, according to this schematic.
It\’s very simple, and it works.

that is so excellent. Can you take some pictures of your setup?
Also, I\’d love to see the schematic of the bedinin charger Solid state!! I have a couple of bedini circuits, but not the solid state ones. I\’d love to try the solid state one with the moe-joe cell.
Please share you setup and schematic! We\’d really appreciate it.

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Can you give some advices on it in terms of :
1- Period of charging.
2- Scum filtering
3- What to look for.
4- the difference with a normal DC charging.

1 – Period of charging – This is a flexible part of the process with much to be discovered. For example, You can charge for a few minutes several times a day. So try 2 minutes charging 5 times / day – spaced evenly.
You can also try to charge for 1 hour once or twice / day.

I am assuming there is very little current passing.
what is your frequency? Can you modify or tune to different frequencies??!?!

2- Scum filtering – you shouldn\’t have any scum produced with the bedini system. do you? Or is it from a previous DC setup?
I suggest you use the blue shop towels. i use two of them. first i wet them with good, filtered water, and then pour the scummy water through… should be good. you will lose some of the potency (charge and energy) of the water after to filtering

3 – what to look for – you won\’t see much with Bedini. but you\’ll feel it. put your hand around the cell. draw it back in and out, and sense the field.

4 – the difference with normal DC charging – good question. this depends on the frequency.
normal DC is slow and steady – the water builds up a charge quite slowly, over time. the bedini system is charging the water with radiant energy. it\’s on a different spectrum.
i\’ll have to ponder the differences. i am not so clear right now.

Perhaps others can comment too, what they think is the difference?

[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey again Daniel,

Thank you for your advices. 🙂

Also, I\’d love to see the schematic of the bedinin charger Solid state

Sure, I have a simple one, the bedini solid state simplified to a transistor, couple of resistor and a bifilar coil.
Here it is attached.

I didn\’t test it on my Moe-Joe yet, I am charging a small battery now, actually conditioning it and it\’s taking lots of time. Soon I\’ll hook it up to my Moe-joe-

But what\’s interesting is that I used this circuit to make Colloidal Silver, it was recommended by Lindemann.
So what happened is that the voltage on the output raised increasingly to 2.2V and stayed there the whole time, with soooo little black spots on the silver rods. The water very clear. According to Lindemann, this will produce Nano-Particles. Also after I turned off the circuit, a residual voltage of 0.36 V was measured across the cell, pretty interesting as well. (Maybe the Silver is by itself a good Orgone energy attractor ??? It\’s good to experiment with Moe-joe with Nano-particles of Silver added to the water). The water used was just distilled, with no energysing for it what so ever.

Now what\’s moooore intersting, is that the HHO cell dudes, are using a self resonating charger, called Meissner Circuit. It will adapt to the cell continuously, in terms of amplitude of the pulses and frequency. Pretty amazing dude, energy efficient, and intelligent. And the schematics are very simple to make. In an hour or two, you\’ll be running your Moe-Joe on it. They too condition their cells to have this white scum on the plates, which takes to form for hundreds of hours, but then they can condition even tap water in two hours or so. There is a modified Meissner Schematic,works perfectly, that I found in a book I bought from a dude experimenting with radiant energy, an experimented mechanic person. I don\’t know if I am allowed to share here, let me know if it\’s okay with you. I think this charger will make a difference for Moe-joe.

I am not sure if this bedini circuit is adjusting its frequency with the battery with time, I need to have some better tools to measure, but yesterday, I measured a pulse of 20khz on my digital meter.
Did the battery initial conditioning take a long time with you?

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey again Daniel,

Thank you for your advices. 🙂

Also, I\’d love to see the schematic of the bedinin charger Solid state

Sure, I have a simple one, the bedini solid state simplified to a transistor, couple of resistor and a bifilar coil.
Here it is attached.

Elianodi, we didn\’t receive any attachments from you this last email. Can you re-attach?!?!

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But what\’s interesting is that I used this circuit to make Colloidal Silver, it was recommended by Lindemann.
So what happened is that the voltage on the output raised increasingly to 2.2V and stayed there the whole time, with soooo little black spots on the silver rods.

Eli, are you sure you mean only 2.2 volts?
with my bedini i was getting many hundreds of volts…

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Now what\’s moooore intersting, is that the HHO cell dudes, are using a self resonating charger, called Meissner Circuit. It will adapt to the cell continuously, in terms of amplitude of the pulses and frequency. Pretty amazing dude, energy efficient, and intelligent. And the schematics are very simple to make. In an hour or two, you\’ll be running your Moe-Joe on it. They too condition their cells to have this white scum on the plates, which takes to form for hundreds of hours, but then they can condition even tap water in two hours or so. There is a modified Meissner Schematic,works perfectly, that I found in a book I bought from a dude experimenting with radiant energy, an experimented mechanic person. I don\’t know if I am allowed to share here, let me know if it\’s okay with you. I think this charger will make a difference for Moe-joe.

this is excellent! thank you so much for sharing Eli.
This is exactly what we\’ve been looking for with the moe-joe cell. Self-oscillating!! that is perfect, because it is much too difficult to calculate the resonant frequency of the moe-joe cells. it\’s too complex. but this is perfect.

yes, you can share it here.
Can you attach the modified Meissner Schematic from the book you found (just give good source for the schematic) and also the original meissner circuit.

i am beginning to look into it.
Looks like guru2you on youtube has a video about it as well.

more questions to follow.

I am not sure if this bedini circuit is adjusting its frequency with the battery with time, I need to have some better tools to measure, but yesterday, I measured a pulse of 20khz on my digital meter.
Did the battery initial conditioning take a long time with you?[/quote]

[Moshe Daniel]

here is the guru2you video from youtube. looks like a very simple circuit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8YQ6HUwbU

[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey Daniel,

Yes this is the Youtube video, but the version that is not meant for HHO cells, or Now for MOE-JOE :hopefully 😀

For the Bedini, I was putting my digital meter to DC voltage measure, not AC, while charging, I will experiment with this more in the coming days.

Man, I\’ll send you the pix , dunno why it\’s not working here to post the pix, then you can post them for me 🙂

Check out Ritalie.com, this is the dude that I bought his material, he has videos for his HHO charging with the MEissner circuit,and what a beautiful charge, always in resonnance, the 100ohm resistor is not necessary with HHO, it looses power.

Check your email Dude, excited to apply this to Moe-joe.

Cheers MAn

[Moshe Daniel]

Elianodi Eliano wrote:

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Hey Daniel,

Yes this is the Youtube video, but the version that is not meant for HHO cells, or Now for MOE-JOE :hopefully 😀

For the Bedini, I was putting my digital meter to DC voltage measure, not AC, while charging, I will experiment with this more in the coming days.

Hi Eli,

As far as I understand, you really cannot read the output of the Bedini system with a regular voltmeter. it\’s because it is radiant energy. You\’ll beed an oscilloscope to do so, or the readings won\’t be accurate.

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Man, I\’ll send you the pix , dunno why it\’s not working here to post the pix, then you can post them for me 🙂

sure… I will post here (this is the Bedini Solid state charger):

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Check out Ritalie.com, this is the dude that I bought his material, he has videos for his HHO charging with the MEissner circuit,and what a beautiful charge, always in resonnance, the 100ohm resistor is not necessary with HHO, it looses power.

what about with the moe-joe cell? you think we can also get rid of the 100ohm resistor?
(note: I am attaching the Meissner circuits in next response here)

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[Moshe Daniel]

Here is the Original Meissner Circuit

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[Moshe Daniel]

This is the Meissner Circuit modified:

Thanks to Eli for these files and to Ritalie.com –
Also thanks to Bedini for this great circuits!

Note to Eli –
Which of the two circuits – Meissner original, or Meissner modified do you recommend for the charging with the moe-joe cell?

Also, just a quick explanation of how to add images in the post – there are 2 ways
1) you go to the bottom of the text area, and you select your image from your harddrive using \”Browse\” button, but then you click on the img button to the right, and this creates a marker for where that uploaded image will appear.
2) you use the Image link ABOVE the text box where you type out the main post, and your place the link of an image which already exists somewhere on the web.

ok?

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[Elianodi Eliano]

Hey daniel,

so I can only upoload one pic for each post. I thought I can upload more then one.

Beautiful schematics.
Sharing information is what will move our consciousness forward. 🙂

will start to charge my water soon with those circuits.

For the Meissner circuit, the modified version is best of course, because the 100ohm will consume some power, so removing it is best.
The capacitor need to be AC, or Non-polarized one, rating 100V or higher, just for protection.

Air-core coils are best because there is No hysteresis losses and eddy currents in the steel at higher frequencies.

with these circuits, you can also make Nano-sized particles of colloidal Silver (tested by Peter Lindemann) for CS consumers. Just hook your electrodes in distilled water instead of a battery and hit the button.

Waiting for the Feedback of the results.
Cheers to all