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  • Questions from Chris McGuire

    Posted by Moshe Daniel on March 31, 2012 at 5:24 pm
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    They call me Chris. I have received the moe joe cell and am excited to start charging water.
    A couple questions:
    How does cell phone radiation affect the function it?
    Does high voltage lines or substations affect the function? If so, do you know the approximate distance per voltage?

    hi Chris and welcome!! We\’re so glad to have you here and to have you be a part of the moe-joe cell and Nutopia.cc / ENL community.

    In answer to your first questions –
    The cells are affected by EMFs from high voltage lines and substations for sure. it will dampen and decrease the level of power of the cell…
    Cell phones will do the same. they have a scattering effect on the life-force Orgone nature of the cell.

    A cell phone has a 90m effect, the most when it is closest, and less when it is away. IT\’s pretty much unavoidable, unless you live off in the country.
    Cell phone towers even farther. Probably at least 1km radius. I am not 100% sure about this. Maybe others out there know better?

    A big power station will be far too. up to 1km. worse at the closest point, obviously.

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    Or perhaps all these variables that ‘may’ affect the function are fear factors and can be controlled be the will of the operator?

    You can limit the effects by using ORGONITE.
    It\’s not fear that does the negative effect, it\’s a fact. the will of the operator can help too. very clear consciousness can help protect.

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    I am installing the unit on a 1981 Toyota Deluxe Pickup with a 4 Cylinder 22R gasoline engine. I am currently polishing inner 5” surfaces and outer 2” surfaces of my moe joe cell. Today I must help a brother in Las Vegas but I feel like a kid again waiting to come back to this project.

    I have a full wave bridge rectifier with which I can get a choppy 120 V DC wave coming from a 120 vac receptacle in my home. Will I need to smooth the output with a capacitor or will this be sufficient to charge a bucket of water?

    better with a capacitor. much better. i\’ve tried both ways. with and without.

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    Also wondering if coating the steel in shellac will extend the life of the water charging unit? Since some electrolysis and therefore corrosion of the joe cell is more likely during the process of charging water.

    no! no coating! You don\’t need to, unless you\’re using REALLY high voltage with high current. i\’ve had some of my cells for years, and there\’s no sign of wear.

    I am, however, you should note, using only low voltages to charge the water- 12V – 24V – i have a low yield of amperage, it\’s safer, and the water is more peaceful, but still gets charged way up.
    with the higher voltages, you do see lots of bubbles and action, but it\’s just that – show…

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    Thanks for everything.

    you bet my friend!
    Thank you too!

    Moshe Daniel replied 13 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Chris McGuire

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    April 3, 2012 at 12:05 am

    My plan today is to begin charging about 4 gallons of water, is a plastic bucket sufficient? Should I charge using only a steel or glass container?

    Also, since lower voltages can be used to charge water, will I need anything more than the negative pole of a car battery to charge my water? What about the use of a Car battery charger which is running from a 120vac?

    I decided not to go with the full wave bridge rectifier/capacitor off a 120 v ac receptacle just for safety and ease :). Still curious, however, if I still need to go get a capacitor for charging?

    Also wondering if I\’ll EVER need any other polarity of a voltage source other than negative?

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    April 3, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Chris McGuire wrote:

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    My plan today is to begin charging about 4 gallons of water, is a plastic bucket sufficient? Should I charge using only a steel or glass container?

    yeah, I\’d only use steel or glass. glass is great. plastic no good. i\’ve tried, and you\’d be suprised how much it dampens the orgone.

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    Also, since lower voltages can be used to charge water, will I need anything more than the negative pole of a car battery to charge my water? What about the use of a Car battery charger which is running from a 120vac?

    you can use one of those, but it\’s not as pure a DC as from a 12V car battery itself.

    in order to charge the cell, you do need to connect to both poles: +ve and -ve. But to maintain, to continue, you just connect to the -ve battery terminal to the inner sphere.

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    I decided not to go with the full wave bridge rectifier/capacitor off a 120 v ac receptacle just for safety and ease :). Still curious, however, if I still need to go get a capacitor for charging?

    not unless you\’re going to try that out.
    with that much firepower, you will see lots of stuff happening, and feel too, but it sets up too much of an expectation of \”awe and power\” since the gentle 12 volt charge does something subtler, but still very powerful. probably more.
    if you want to try that, go for it. be VERY careful. rubble gloves. rubber shoes. don\’t let your mind wander and be careless.

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    Also wondering if I\’ll EVER need any other polarity of a voltage source other than negative?

    yes. of course. to charge, you need both.

    Imagine is Now!

  • Chris McGuire

    Member
    April 3, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Thanks for all the help! I\’ll keep in touch

  • Chris McGuire

    Member
    April 6, 2012 at 6:55 am

    I have successfully charged my first steel pot of orgone water. I used a base of structured water produced from my own vortex trap. I think this helped my charging process proceed so quickly and on such a low voltage (12 v). I have not yet assembled my car kit so I took the wonderfully milky-white-after-filtered water (produced under a full moon) and gave it to some love starved plants. haha. Can\’t wait to see the reaction of those plants. So my next step is to polish/clean/mount my car kit and charge another batch of water. By the way, these moe-joe\’s are actually quite resilient in the charging process, thanks Moshe for advising against the coatings.

    I think my first arrangement of the car kit I will try to charge my engine block from the side without touching any of my fuel system. I want it to slowly and happily charge the engine block while I\’m running on gasoline still and I am a bit excited to see the effects on my gas mileage. 🙂

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    April 6, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Chris McGuire wrote:

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    I have successfully charged my first steel pot of orgone water. I used a base of structured water produced from my own vortex trap. I think this helped my charging process proceed so quickly and on such a low voltage (12 v). I have not yet assembled my car kit so I took the wonderfully milky-white-after-filtered water (produced under a full moon) and gave it to some love starved plants. haha. Can\’t wait to see the reaction of those plants.

    wow! that sounds amazing! I can\’t wait to hear about the effects on the plants too!
    The full moon does have an enhancing effect on the orgone.

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    So my next step is to polish/clean/mount my car kit and charge another batch of water. By the way, these moe-joe\’s are actually quite resilient in the charging process, thanks Moshe for advising against the coatings.

    you\’re welcome. especially at 12V – that is not a threat at all to that good 316L stainless steel!

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    I think my first arrangement of the car kit I will try to charge my engine block from the side without touching any of my fuel system. I want it to slowly and happily charge the engine block while I\’m running on gasoline still and I am a bit excited to see the effects on my gas mileage. 🙂

    goodl luck, and keep us posted!

  • Chris McGuire

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    April 13, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    I assembled my car kit a couple days ago but I was sloppy in keeping dirt out so I carried it around for a few days assembled yet dirty. I noticed today as I was dis-assembling the car kit unit that the bismuth core was cracked (1 of two that I have). I am wondering what your opinion is of soldering the bismuth core back together? Should I try to liquify the bismuth again? Or can I just use a soldering iron from radio shack and some flux core solder? What effects have you noticed flox core solder joints having on the flow of orgone?

    Thanks!

  • Moshe Daniel

    Member
    April 13, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Chris McGuire wrote:

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    I assembled my car kit a couple days ago but I was sloppy in keeping dirt out so I carried it around for a few days assembled yet dirty. I noticed today as I was dis-assembling the car kit unit that the bismuth core was cracked (1 of two that I have). I am wondering what your opinion is of soldering the bismuth core back together? Should I try to liquify the bismuth again? Or can I just use a soldering iron from radio shack and some flux core solder? What effects have you noticed flox core solder joints having on the flow of orgone?
    Thanks!

    hi Chris,
    soldering the bismuth probably won\’t work, since it has such a low melting point and will likely melt totally out of shape before you can adequately repair it. . if it just cracked, your best is in reinforcing it with goop or some solid hardening silicone gel. can you get some of that?
    can you include a picture here of the cracked Bi core?

  • Chris McGuire

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    April 13, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Moshe:

    I did manage to drip some solder into the joints, it was cracked all the way through. I peeled off the goo you had and the copper wire stayed intact and held the two separated pieces together. Little did I know that my 30 watt soldering iron was hot enough to liquefy the bismuth too! It was a little tough trying to get the solder to stay inside the crack because when my soldering iron touched the bismuth it would get hot enough to melt the solder right back out. LOL. Anyway I got everything back together. I\’ll send a pic of what I have now.

    The original crack ran right through the middle where the all thread\’s meet, I am running to home depot now and wherever else I have to go to get a couple of good glass containers for charging/filtering. Is Shoe goo (brand) a safe bet to reseal my bismuth core?


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  • Moshe Daniel

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    April 14, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Chris McGuire wrote:

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    Moshe:
    The original crack ran right through the middle where the all thread\’s meet, I am running to home depot now and wherever else I have to go to get a couple of good glass containers for charging/filtering. Is Shoe goo (brand) a safe bet to reseal my bismuth core?

    I didn\’t know Shoe goo, so i did a little research.
    Info

    it\’s a petroleum byproduct – Toluene.
    Kind of toxic. not good for water drinking option.
    however, for car, it may be tough enough.

    maybe you can try it and then report?

    Your picture of the fixed bismuth core is hilarious, by the way.

  • Chris McGuire

    Member
    April 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    hi Moshe:

    I have used my water charging kit (with no shoe goo on it anywhere) to charge another pot of water. After charging on and off for various periods of time of over the course of yesterday and night. I allowed the water to rest when I rested last night. When I got up I charged again on and off for a couple hours then I filtered my pot of water through blue shop towels and then started charging again with the clear clean water. I could tell immediately when I connected my 12v DC again with the newly filtered partially charged water that it was creating a stronger field. I have placed various young living oils, a jar of extra virgin coconut oil and some mono atomic gold products right in and around my water charging pot in order resonate them in the field. I am excited to see the results of charging my mono atomic gold supplements.

    The bubbles being formed during charging periods are pure white and clean. I can definitely feel the flux being created inside my home each time I re connect my DC.

    I took video of my charging setup yesterday including my vortex trap. I set up a safe and mobile method of connecting my moe-joe cells to my truck for charging water wherever I may be. I will take some more pics of my after-1-filtration- setup.

    The glass vases in my steel pot are there to raise the water level. After my filtration process I had much less water 🙂

    As far as my car kit is concerned, it is shoe-goo\’d up. I\’ll have a pic of that up shortly as well. I sealed it completely and am just waiting until I am sure that my pot of charged water is to the threshold sufficient to transfer it, not really sure how to tell when that is, other than the visibly white blue cloudiness. The bismuth core is fixed (I took pics of it right after I goo\’d it and I\’m not sure about core\’s strength now against the outward force exerted by the all threads when tightening the bolts and threaded spacers onto them).


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  • Chris McGuire

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    April 15, 2012 at 12:54 am

    Finally got a glass vase that will fit my joe cell but it is too large to submerse my second stage water so I\’ll be restarting the charging process again.


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  • Moshe Daniel

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    April 15, 2012 at 1:59 am

    Chris,

    cool video man! I love where you live. Nice lot and great setup. Great magnet trap.

    a few suggestions to tweak your moe-joe into even better shape and production –
    1) the moe-joe will charge better when fully submerged.
    2) best to have the negative coming in from the BOTTOM and to find a way to insulate the top portion – i use shrink wrap, works well – you can also use a nylon spacer there, works well, and you can use a nylon nut also to also help with the insulation.
    3) also insulate the wire bringing the +ve electricity to the cell, so that the electricity only \”sees\” the water for the first time on the INSIDE of the 5\” male sphere.
    4)Charge your batteries with the battery chargery – fine, but then remove the battery charger from the batteries when charging the moe-joe cell.
    5) get a small hole in the bottom of the glass vessel – this really helps with my moe-joe cell. i\’ve noticed a big difference. glass is the best, and having the negative coming out of the bottom, is important.

    You\’re doing awesome.
    thanks for sharing the pictures and videos with us.

  • Chris McGuire

    Member
    April 15, 2012 at 3:14 am

    I\’ll be making those changes asap. Thanks!

    BTW, That wasn\’t my house in the video, just the home of a brother. It is a good place to work on the moe-joe cell because it is away from many negative influences.

  • Chris McGuire

    Member
    April 16, 2012 at 8:13 am

    I peeled off the shoe goo (didn\’t bond well with the steel at all) and rebuilt my car kit using silicone sealant instead.

    I also used some old amp wire for my leads and used heat shrink tubing and silicone to seal the contacts of the leads. I put my inner core lead coming in from the bottom. sealed from water exposure until the inner side of the 5\” sphere. I am just waiting for silicone to set then I will put some charged water in it 🙂


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  • Moshe Daniel

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    April 16, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    very beautiful. very nice work.
    you\’re very skilled at this.

    Is your aluminum connector electrically connected to the other sphere?
    also, when you have the transfer tube, make sure the metal of the tube is also connected to the alum connector, but not touching the engine block.

    This cell has a consciousness. Use your heart and mind to guide it, direct it, to what it\’s supposed to do.
    The zero point field Unified Field will do the rest.

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