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Testing the Moe-Joe on a car
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Day 1 of Driving a 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee with Pulstar Sparkplugs and the Moe-Joe Cell.
Previous Average Mileage of the Jeep with the Pulstar; 14 MPG average.
With the Moe-Joe cell; 20 MPG average.
Previous Handling and engine sound; Semi-loud with a small vibration. Handling when you turned hard, the power steering pump would whine.
Current Handling and Engine sound; 80% silent and can be given the term, \”Quiet Power\”. Handling is lighter than before.
Here is the setup of the engine.
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Day 3 – Charging
Day 4 – Rode the Jeep ~10 miles, smoother than it was previously. Able to go 0 to 60 in 12 seconds, rather than 18 seconds with only the Gas pedal half-way to the floor.
Day 5 – Overnight charge, checked the water level, only 1/64 was used. Current Average MPG is ~20. Current handling: Tight and smooth. Engine noise is in the 30 to 40 range when outside. Able to hold a 80 MPH speed with a 1/4 gas pedal push rather than a 3/4 push.
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James A.L. Cullumber wrote:
quote :Day 3 – ChargingDay 4 – Rode the Jeep ~10 miles, smoother than it was previously. Able to go 0 to 60 in 12 seconds, rather than 18 seconds with only the Gas pedal half-way to the floor.
Day 5 – Overnight charge, checked the water level, only 1/64 was used. Current Average MPG is ~20. Current handling: Tight and smooth. Engine noise is in the 30 to 40 range when outside. Able to hold a 80 MPH speed with a 1/4 gas pedal push rather than a 3/4 push.
James, that is excellent news. Thanks for sharing.
:laugh:
Can you tell us how you prepared the cell before installation?
What water did you use?
How did you charge the water?
How have you connected the cell to the chassis and the battery?Thanks.
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quote :James, that is excellent news. Thanks for sharing.
Can you tell us how you prepared the cell before installation?
What water did you use?
How did you charge the water?
How have you connected the cell to the chassis and the battery?The water I used is tap water from a well.
I charged it by adding the water, capped it with the tube as shown, then flipped the switch that connects the positive to the cell.
I have not connected the cell the the chassis of the car, but I have connected the cell to the Negative of the battery. Did I miss an important step as such?
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Okay
I must of done something wrong here. When I was driving a trailer ~280 lbs, it felt smooth. Then, I forgot to switch off the charging circuit, and when a relative used the car w/ the trailer to gather metal bars at a Metal Shop, he said that it felt no different from other times.
Took the car, and dropped off the metal, but along the way, it felt like I needed to give my car more gas in order to get to a good speed of around 60 MPH. Did a weight approximation, and found that it was around ~600 lbs.
Now, in the instructions, and videos they said that when your running your car, your to turn off the Charging circuit. I must ask, what happens when one doesn\’t turn it off?
Oh, and when I shut off my fuel pump and the charging circuit was off, I turn on the car, it was able to run, but not the greatest. Is the Moe-Joe cell good enough to make a car run independently from gasoline due to it\’s need of a very pure source of water or is it simply a fuel enhancer?
I have read that the Joe Cell is capable of running the engine independently, but your the closest guy to go to when I wish to try it for myself.
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James A.L. Cullumber wrote:
quote :quote :James, that is excellent news. Thanks for sharing.Can you tell us how you prepared the cell before installation?
What water did you use?
How did you charge the water?
How have you connected the cell to the chassis and the battery?The water I used is tap water from a well.
I charged it by adding the water, capped it with the tube as shown, then flipped the switch that connects the positive to the cell.
I have not connected the cell the the chassis of the car, but I have connected the cell to the Negative of the battery. Did I miss an important step as such?
That\’s fine. The negative terminal of the battery is connected to the chassis of the car anyway, in more than one place, so what you\’ve done is alright.
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James A.L. Cullumber wrote:
quote :OkayI must of done something wrong here. When I was driving a trailer ~280 lbs, it felt smooth. Then, I forgot to switch off the charging circuit, and when a relative used the car w/ the trailer to gather metal bars at a Metal Shop, he said that it felt no different from other times.
This sounds like it may be a \”Y factor\” issue.
Are you familiar with that?
Basically, the technology of the moe-joe cell has a lot to do with the energy of the user.
Some people negate the energies. Is the relative that used the car an \”open\” person? Or were they doubting?
I know this part sounds a little hokey, but I\’ve seen it with my own eyes.
I drove from Florida to Texas with a moe-joe cell installed.
And one of my friends and I, while driving, had a very positive effect on the cell,
but our other friend, when driving, basically had a \”negative\” effect – as in, even worse power and fuel mileage.The \”knowing\” of a person seems to be important with the cell.
quote :Took the car, and dropped off the metal, but along the way, it felt like I needed to give my car more gas in order to get to a good speed of around 60 MPH. Did a weight approximation, and found that it was around ~600 lbs.Now, in the instructions, and videos they said that when your running your car, your to turn off the Charging circuit. I must ask, what happens when one doesn\’t turn it off?
it\’s a good question. It is a bit of an unknown.
What I do know is that the energy of the cell (neutrinos? scalar waves?) gets inside the electronics of the car and can cause wonkiness like the radio, speedometer, or other elements of the computer to not function properly.quote :Oh, and when I shut off my fuel pump and the charging circuit was off, I turn on the car, it was able to run, but not the greatest. Is the Moe-Joe cell good enough to make a car run independently from gasoline due to it\’s need of a very pure source of water or is it simply a fuel enhancer?How long did you shut off the fuel pump for?
When you say, it was able to run but not the greatest, can you describe this?
I have never had or heard of fuel-less operation with the moe-joe cell.
I\’ve heard it, but not seen it with my own eyes, in the joe cell world.quote :I have read that the Joe Cell is capable of running the engine independently, but your the closest guy to go to when I wish to try it for myself.It would be fantastic if you did get some lasting fuel-less operation.
I\’ve heard with the joe cell people that anyone who had fuel-less,
had a very hard time managing the vehicle. it was erratic and difficult to control. -
James,
where did you connect the tube from the cell to the engine? -
quote :This sounds like it may be a \”Y factor\” issue.
Are you familiar with that?
Basically, the technology of the moe-joe cell has a lot to do with the energy of the user.
Some people negate the energies. Is the relative that used the car an \”open\” person? Or were they doubting?
I know this part sounds a little hokey, but I\’ve seen it with my own eyes.
I drove from Florida to Texas with a moe-joe cell installed.
And one of my friends and I, while driving, had a very positive effect on the cell,
but our other friend, when driving, basically had a \”negative\” effect – as in, even worse power and fuel mileage.The \”knowing\” of a person seems to be important with the cell.
explains it somewhat, but I\’ll keep an open mind on what needs to be done to get the job done.
quote :it\’s a good question. It is a bit of an unknown.
What I do know is that the energy of the cell (neutrinos? scalar waves?) gets inside the electronics of the car and can cause wonkiness like the radio, speedometer, or other elements of the computer to not function properlykind of answers my own question, it\’s like fire. Only in a gaseous form, waiting for the right amount of energy to be added, and it doesn\’t have an element. But if this device causes such noise, then it might be throwing my electronic MPG gauge.
I\’ll keep a close eye on it\’s changes for the next 2 weeks.
quote :How long did you shut off the fuel pump for?When you say, it was able to run but not the greatest, can you describe this?
I have never had or heard of fuel-less operation with the moe-joe cell.
I\’ve heard it, but not seen it with my own eyes, in the joe cell world.I\’ve shut the pump off, turn on the car, let it run for 1 minute, and during that minute, there is a vacuum whining like it\’s trying to pump fuel that isn\’t there, like there is a secondary pump.
I\’m letting the car run idle, no movement due to the fact that every time I tap the gas pedal it sounds like it\’s choking and looking for a fuel that isn\’t there. So, the power is negligible for road conditions.
Seems like I need to search deeper on what Patrick J. Kelly says about such device. But from what he says is that it\’s very difficult and requires a lot of patience to charge the water to a viable solution in which it can make the can run on the water for more than what gasoline can provide. He said the water \”can be generated inside the Cell, but as the conditioning process usually generates an unwanted residue on top of the water and on the bottom of the Cell\”
If the conditioning process does make the water a more viable fuel source than gasoline, then I\’m going to need change my stance here.
quote :It would be fantastic if you did get some lasting fuel-less operation.
I\’ve heard with the joe cell people that anyone who had fuel-less,
had a very hard time managing the vehicle. it was erratic and difficult to control.Hard to control because it\’s difficult to get. Orgone concentrated, that\’s the goal with your Moe-Joe cell, have the Orgone, or a gaseous-type of fire with no element such as hydrogen, to run a car for a long ways.
If Joe got it to run using a process to gather pure water and store it, then most people here can do it as well. However, it\’s reassuring that this is one long road for a fuel independence.
But I must ask, does the Moe-Joe Cell need to be air-tight? Most people here got it water tight, I question if it needs to be air-tight?
quote :where did you connect the tube from the cell to the engine?As the picture shows, directly to the top of the Air Intake but on the other side of the filter.
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James A.L. Cullumber wrote:
[quote]quote :I\’ve shut the pump off, turn on the car, let it run for 1 minute, and during that minute, there is a vacuum whining like it\’s trying to pump fuel that isn\’t there, like there is a secondary pump.I\’m letting the car run idle, no movement due to the fact that every time I tap the gas pedal it sounds like it\’s choking and looking for a fuel that isn\’t there. So, the power is negligible for road conditions.
Seems like I need to search deeper on what Patrick J. Kelly says about such device. But from what he says is that it\’s very difficult and requires a lot of patience to charge the water to a viable solution in which it can make the can run on the water for more than what gasoline can provide. He said the water \”can be generated inside the Cell, but as the conditioning process usually generates an unwanted residue on top of the water and on the bottom of the Cell\”
If the conditioning process does make the water a more viable fuel source than gasoline, then I\’m going to need change my stance here.
You\’ll let me know how it goes and if you change your stance. 😉
I know there are many factors at play that can interfere, but in the end, I think the
method should be relatively simple.quote :But I must ask, does the Moe-Joe Cell need to be air-tight? Most people here got it water tight, I question if it needs to be air-tight?Water-tight is better than airtight.
If it seals water, it should seal air.
Thing is, it has to be \”vacuum\” tight.
So there shouldn\’t be any air leaks, yes, no air leaks,
so that the vacuum of the engine can draw on the cell\’s water surface vapour.quote :where did you connect the tube from the cell to the engine?As the picture shows, directly to the top of the Air Intake but on the other side of the filter.
ok thanks.
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Day 20
About Day 20. Decided to take the cell out, to attempt to find out what is going on.
The mileage and the power seem to have gone to a normal level, not a level beyond.
Took out the water and found this.
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This is what happens when you don\’t charge.
This is what you were notified about, Moshe.
I\’ll follow the instructions on charging, restart the test, and begin again. After the Cell gets a through cleaning.
Also… Is the Bismuth Core suppose to be covered in some kind of waxy calcite material? Because that\’s what I got after the trial
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James A.L. Cullumber wrote:
quote :Day 20About Day 20. Decided to take the cell out, to attempt to find out what is going on.
The mileage and the power seem to have gone to a normal level, not a level beyond.
Took out the water and found this.
the image didn\’t display properly.
here it is.Wow. yeah. that\’s some pretty dirty water.
Like you said, it\’s good to precharge the water and clean it.
Or just filter that water, rinse the cell, and put that same water back in.You can use shop towels to filter the water through a big funnel.
You\’re gonna lose some, but you can top it up with fresh water.What do you think caused that?
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quote :Wow. yeah. that\’s some pretty dirty water.
Like you said, it\’s good to precharge the water and clean it.
Or just filter that water, rinse the cell, and put that same water back in.You can use shop towels to filter the water through a big funnel.
You\’re gonna lose some, but you can top it up with fresh water.What do you think caused that?
personal opinion, because there was no dust storm anytime… gas chemicals. When I put my finger in the water (Not pleasant) it was all gritty like rust. So, the purpose of the pre-charge is to filter out the water that has impurities or at least filter out the impurities so that the water can act like a magnifying glass for the Orgone to act like a substitute for a combustible fuel.
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