MemberSeptember 30, 2020 at 1:33 am
Hello Moshe and Nutopia Family,
I ordered the water healing cell and car kit. Moshe, you\’ve been helping me with minor details and requested I create a post on the forum, so here I am!
Here\’s the water healing cell I\’m using to charge water for the car kit:
I already have it set up with 12V DC @ 200ma (usb type charger) with a timer set for 12 hours on and 12 hours off.
I actually am using distilled water, but it\’s been restructured for months using John Milewski\’s \”Poor man\’s fountain of youth\” method. Basically I bought 50lbs of magnetite aka iron sand and created cylinders to house the sand. In the cylinders I leave gallon glass bottles to charge. Magnetite sand forms an octahedron molecular matrix, allegedly. For those familiar with shape power, pyramids are basically magnets/antennaes and are known/used for integration. Also using a phi pendant from Implosion Researche Center. I added GaNS and some hydrogen peroxide to the water also. Since I just read I should be using spring/tap, I might add some electrolytes.. Maybe a 1/2 tbl of sea salt.
Here\’s a pic of one of the charging plates and a golden ratio pyramid:
Here\’s a pic of how I\’m grounding the cell to the chassis:
Here\’s a pic of the cell mounted in the car:
I used simple wire to fasten the handle of the gallon jug, that I duck taped, to the frame of the car
Here\’s a pic of the spring steel transfer tube to be inserted to the 3/8\” barb:
I just have two hiccups that I need some clarity with.
1 – Should the MJ car cell be sealed where the male and female hemispheres meet with silicone/sealant? I\’m having a hard time believing that even at half full that it won\’t leak.
2 – Where do I connect the positive (anode) cable to? Should the MJ cell ONLY be powered when the car is on or should it be powered continuously?? I\’m leaning towards the later.
I remember reading something about using a 9v battery to keep it charging… If it\’s continuous then I\’ll just connect it to the positive terminal of the car battery.
Questions and comments welcome. Insight appreciated!
MemberSeptember 30, 2020 at 1:46 am
I\’m mounting the car cell to a 1987 Volvo 244.
Baby doesn\’t have an O2 sensor, so I\’m really excited to see how she\’ll perform.
**Update: I believe I figured out how to power the car cell and will be figuring out a battery harness for it.
I also went ahead and applied some goop around the seem of the male and female hemispheres where they meet, perpendicular to the negative pole.
Any ideas on a reliable long term way to power the cell? There\’s a testimonial of a fellow who had it on his automobile for a while, disconnected it from the car and powered it up at home remotely. When it was on, it seemed to still be entangled with the car.
Has anyone confirmed similar experiences/results?
MemberOctober 1, 2020 at 1:45 am
hey Robert. Very exciting research you\’re doing.
Your photos require permission to access. I just requested it, so I can see the pics,
but I can tell you, I am not a big fan of distilled water.
yes, natural spring water is much better. Trying to add life to dead water is harder than enlivening already living water. but with all the fancy pants stuff you\’re doing, you may get some life back in her yet!!
Let me have access to those pics and I\’ll be able to offer other comments.
Also, KCl is a good eletrolyte for the cell.
There\’s two approaches here.
One for healing – lower voltage lower amperage charging, keep the water alive, living. very nice for healing.
and one for powering cars – the higher amperage – around 1 amp, seems to be key. with distilled water, you\’d need TONS of volts to get up to one amp – too dangerous.
better to use some electrolyte to bring up the amperage.
you might want to play around with both methods.
if you\’re sensitive to the field the moe-joe cell puts out, you can sense where you\’re at and what\’s working for you.
that Volvo sound GREAT! i can\’t wait to hear your results and experiments.
MemberOctober 6, 2020 at 12:20 am
Woops, the pictures should be viewable now.
1 amp you say? I went ahead and bought this 6V 1.1aH rechargeable lead acid battery:
I\’m worried that if I use an electrolyte it\’s going to corrode parts of the cell.. turns out the spade terminals are oxidizing already in the healing MJC. I need to upgrade to stainless, but they seem hard to come by.
Will post more when the rechargeable battery arrives.
Thanks for the help and ideas!
MemberOctober 6, 2020 at 1:26 am
OK – let\’s tackle some of these questionsquote :
yes, you can seal it on the outside, around the circumference where the hemispheres meet.
but only on the 5\” is necessary.quote :
to the little Arm that comes off the 5\” at an angle.quote :
the moe joe cell should not be powered while the engine is running. It\’ll really mess up your electronics. and it shouldn\’t be necessary. give it a quick charge before operating the car and then unplug the positive. keep the negative on always.
You CAN (and probably should) keep a 1.5 V battery across the cell at all times.
this helps hold that potential.quote :
The 1Ah of that battery only indicates how many amp hours it has = 1. that\’s not a lot.
and you only have 6 volts there, not even 12.
Your current is determined by the equation V = I X R
Voltage = Current x Resistance.
if the resistance is high, as it is in distilled water without electrolyte, or rainwater, or even spring water for that matter, then the current drops right down (almost to zero).
you need a lot of voltage to bring the current up to 1 amp.
basically, the only wasy to do so are with a Variac (it gets dangerous at high voltage)
and with electrolyte if using 12 volt battery.
your steal might get a little etched, but you have enough amperage to get that goodies flowing.
Note: this is not the hippy-dippy way of doing it, but the full blast muscle it through way.
I think this is the way to go for cars.
not for the healing aspect of the cells. there, low current is fine.
lots of love.
Your image of the cell charging in the water –
i really like to have those alligator clips out of the water.
So the negative bolt that goes to the 2\” comes out of the bottom of your vessel, and then seal it there with goop or whatever.
and your 5\” +ve electrode is out of the water.
much cleaner and nicer energy that way.
not essential though, but i used to be OCD about these things with the cell.
didn\’t want any interferences.
MemberOctober 10, 2020 at 9:42 pm
Thanks for the help
MemberOctober 10, 2020 at 9:44 pm
Thanks for the help
So, this clears up a lot.
Let\’s see, battery came in and I just connected it before reading your latest reply and I think I\’m going to have to make some adjustments.
I went ahead and sealed the outermost hemispheres at the seam with goop.
Also decided to add rain water to the mix. Turns out there were water fleas in the rain barrel. Filtered the little guys out.
Added it and a little solution of dissolved pink sea salt. About a half a tbl spoon or less.
If I\’m understanding you correctly, the cell is charged at 1amp, but not when running the automobile.
The cell should have a 1.5v battery hooked up to it continuously to maintain the potential.
Will probably see if this 6v will hold its potential in place of a 1.5v. What do you think? Does it really matter what the voltage is?
Also, how long would a 1.5v battery last with holding the cell\’s potential?
Are there immediate noticeable effects once it\’s set up correctly on a car without an O2 sensor? Does the engine run colder, etc?
Going to go mess around with it mounted. Will probably take out my variac and see about running 1amp through the solution.
Thanks for the insight.
How long should the water have 1amp running through it? I\’m thinking it\’s an indeterminate amount and based off of its electrical potential after or something?
Sorry for all the questions, but I had a hard time tracking down a complete guide!
In fact, there doesn\’t seem to be much on the interwebs about MJC, that I can find outside of your website.
MemberOctober 12, 2020 at 4:47 pm
Robert Souza wrote:quote :
OK that\’s great.
you know, i have experience with the MJC, but this is all experimental territory.
nothing set in stone.
you should allow the cell to \”talk to you.\” It\’s not even the cell. It\’s nature. your higher self. Ask to be guided on how to use it.
i don\’t have all the answers.
for eg.quote :
yes, continuously. probably good to unhook the 1.5 battery +ve when charging the cell with 12 volts. just keep that 1.5 volts on when not charging.quote :
I don\’t think so. not the exact voltage. but it is good to keep the potential across the cell to hold whatever is going on in there, in the cell so it doesn\’t dissipate.quote :
I don\’t know. do you have a potentiometer? a voltmeter? you can measure.
you\’ll get to see if it\’s dwindling in voltage.quote :
different people have noticed different effects immediately.
i\’ve noticed the cars being \”lighter on their feet.\” more responsive.
of course, some fuel mileage improvement.
it\’s great you have no O2 sensor.
i haven\’t done it on any engine without O2 sensors.
your report should be very valuable.quote :
not long!! 2-3 minutes at a time.
don\’t heat the water up.
don\’t forget about it. (it\’s a disaster if you forget that you\’re charging. i did it like 3X in the past. lol)
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